Smya X8G Highly Updated and Improved User Manual
The fine tuning with the trim controls as discussed above is always good advice but I don’t suspect that’s your main problem. You need to “calibrate” the quad as follows:
Set quad on a level surface. Turn on the quad. Turn on the transmitter and bind it to the quad as usual (throttle stick up and down). Now, pull BOTH sticks down and to the right at the same time. Quad lights should blink for a few seconds. You are ready to fly.
Try this and good luck.
P.S. My advice is to forget about headless mode for now.
burky39
Member
Bostjanc, the "both sticks down-right" is a gyro horizon calibration. In my experience, I have not done it every time, but that could be because my default calibration just happens to work.
It probably makes sense to do that calibration routinely with each new flight as part of the "initialization" sequence where you start with the left stick full up, followed by full down in addition to the Power Mode (L/H) and "heads up" setting (should you choose to use it).
It probably makes sense to do that calibration routinely with each new flight as part of the "initialization" sequence where you start with the left stick full up, followed by full down in addition to the Power Mode (L/H) and "heads up" setting (should you choose to use it).
Bostjanc
Member
Hi threre. Thank you for your reply.
Im gettin used to it with Syma. Currently I have problem when I push the dron to much high to the sky I'm having difficult to recognize whats the drons position, and when I want to bring dron to "home position" it even goes further/away from me, and thats not a desired behavour. To bad that dron does not have any "come2home" button. I am not sure about headless mode, I have a feeling that it really doesnt work. If I hold left upper button for awhile the remote controler makes some beeps, but can you see anywhere on display to check if its really enabled?
With best regards
Im gettin used to it with Syma. Currently I have problem when I push the dron to much high to the sky I'm having difficult to recognize whats the drons position, and when I want to bring dron to "home position" it even goes further/away from me, and thats not a desired behavour. To bad that dron does not have any "come2home" button. I am not sure about headless mode, I have a feeling that it really doesnt work. If I hold left upper button for awhile the remote controler makes some beeps, but can you see anywhere on display to check if its really enabled?
With best regards
Jackson
USA member at large
Add some additional color to help. Get yourself some colored props to put on the front. Something like this.
burky39
Member
There is no indication on the Controller Display as to what Mode the Quad is in.
To activate "Headless Mode" make sure you are executing the following steps, in the order listed....
Push the Controller ON/OFF power switch up to turn it on, and then turn on the power switch on the bottom of the aircraft.
Assuming you are in the "Smya flying Mode 1" state, push the left throttle lever Up to the highest position, hold it there for several seconds and then pull it back to the lowest position. The transmitter will sound a long Beep to show that the quadcopter has established a radio link and a "forward" direction, and has entered into the pre-fly state.
After executing a "Forward" definition, the aircraft defaults to non-headless mode, and the all indicator lights on the aircraft will lite in a steady bright state.
NOTE: The "Forward" direction of the Quad is the way the camera is "looking." The battery access door is at the "Back" of the Quad. For ease of quickly determining the orientation, I suggest drawing a forward pointing arrow on the top surface and then making sure that arrow is pointing away from you when you set the Quad down in preparation for flight.
To set the "Headless" mode, press down the headless function switch on the top left of the controller for > 2 seconds, the remote control will give out a burst of short beeps to confirm it has entered into headless state, and the aircraft LEDs will flash for ~4 seconds. Pressing again for >2 seconds will exit headless mode, and the controller will emit one long beep for confirmation and the aircraft LEDs will be steadily lit.
Assuming you are in the "Smya flying Mode 1" state, push the left throttle lever Up to the highest position, hold it there for several seconds and then pull it back to the lowest position. The transmitter will sound a long Beep to show that the quadcopter has established a radio link and a "forward" direction, and has entered into the pre-fly state.
After executing a "Forward" definition, the aircraft defaults to non-headless mode, and the all indicator lights on the aircraft will lite in a steady bright state.
NOTE: The "Forward" direction of the Quad is the way the camera is "looking." The battery access door is at the "Back" of the Quad. For ease of quickly determining the orientation, I suggest drawing a forward pointing arrow on the top surface and then making sure that arrow is pointing away from you when you set the Quad down in preparation for flight.
To set the "Headless" mode, press down the headless function switch on the top left of the controller for > 2 seconds, the remote control will give out a burst of short beeps to confirm it has entered into headless state, and the aircraft LEDs will flash for ~4 seconds. Pressing again for >2 seconds will exit headless mode, and the controller will emit one long beep for confirmation and the aircraft LEDs will be steadily lit.
As you initially lift off to fly, verify the Quad moves away from you when you press the Left flight controller stick Up (away from you). Doing this right away assures you are flying in the manner you wish, before the Quad gets away from you.
Bostjanc
Member
Thank you for your reply guys.
Quoting BURKY39: " As you initially lift off to fly, verify the Quad moves away from you when you press the Left flight controller stick Up (away from you)."
You probably meant RIGHT flight controller stick UP, right Bucky?
JACKSON - having different colors of props is one way to go. The problem in my case was that I lift up the dron very high at the sky (at night) and I was not able to recognize anymore in which position green and red lights are. I guess in this case having headless mode enabled would help, because dron would always go backwards if I pull right "joystick" down, right?
With best regards
p.s. - I'm still not in "cocky / heavy / user mode yet", in other words, did not put camera on dron yet, before I don't get some hours being used to fly with it. I think thats wise, agree?
Quoting BURKY39: " As you initially lift off to fly, verify the Quad moves away from you when you press the Left flight controller stick Up (away from you)."
You probably meant RIGHT flight controller stick UP, right Bucky?
JACKSON - having different colors of props is one way to go. The problem in my case was that I lift up the dron very high at the sky (at night) and I was not able to recognize anymore in which position green and red lights are. I guess in this case having headless mode enabled would help, because dron would always go backwards if I pull right "joystick" down, right?
With best regards
p.s. - I'm still not in "cocky / heavy / user mode yet", in other words, did not put camera on dron yet, before I don't get some hours being used to fly with it. I think thats wise, agree?
burky39
Member
10-4. Yes, I should have said the "Right" stick (assuming you are in the default Mode 1 control state). With the Headless mode, if you pull the right stick back then no matter what the drone orientation is it will come back towards you. Of course you have to also adjust the left/right position.
I have found that the "L" (Low) power mode is so weak that I always fly in the "H" (High) mode. It isn't that dramatically different, but it gives you more control if you encounter any winds. Note the controller display has H/L mode symbols. Unfortunately there isn't a Headless symbol.
I flew for 3 months before I put the camera on, and almost lost everything that day anyway because I went too high (trying to get a great view) and forgot to set H and Headless modes (you definately need to be in High power mode to fly with the camera).
I have found that the "L" (Low) power mode is so weak that I always fly in the "H" (High) mode. It isn't that dramatically different, but it gives you more control if you encounter any winds. Note the controller display has H/L mode symbols. Unfortunately there isn't a Headless symbol.
I flew for 3 months before I put the camera on, and almost lost everything that day anyway because I went too high (trying to get a great view) and forgot to set H and Headless modes (you definately need to be in High power mode to fly with the camera).
Jackson
USA member at large
No. For one, headless mode is rather hit and miss on inexpensive quads. Not something that you should or can rely on. Night flying will always be problematic. Hone your skills during the day, you need to develop the proper muscle memory first, meaning you will make the proper stick adjustments without any conscious thought.
It took me awhile to get into the groove, I was quite discouraged initially. I started doing left and right funnels. These combinations of turns and banks eventually clicked.
Maybe this may be of some help after you develop your basic skills.
http://quadcopter101.blogspot.com/2014/02/flight-school-6-distance-flying-keeping.html
burky39
Member
Jackson -
That was a VERY HELPFUL pointer, and BTW that video is part of a wonderful series of helpful pointers. I suggest anyone starting to learn to fly take the time to watch this Quadcopter Flight School Basic Training series. It is well worthwhile!!!
That rotation suggestion was not initially intuitive to me. When I lost my Quad recently I kept trying to move the directional control, see which way the drone moved and then try to mentally calculate the control stick corrections needed to get the direction I wanted. VERY CONFUSING and not easy to quickly do in real-time. The rotation approach is far superior.
That was a VERY HELPFUL pointer, and BTW that video is part of a wonderful series of helpful pointers. I suggest anyone starting to learn to fly take the time to watch this Quadcopter Flight School Basic Training series. It is well worthwhile!!!
That rotation suggestion was not initially intuitive to me. When I lost my Quad recently I kept trying to move the directional control, see which way the drone moved and then try to mentally calculate the control stick corrections needed to get the direction I wanted. VERY CONFUSING and not easy to quickly do in real-time. The rotation approach is far superior.
Bostjanc
Member
Thanks for the replies. More hours I fly, more comfortable I feel, and camera is goin go to wait for awhile. Currently I have 4 batteries but only 1 power adapter. Is it possible to buy some kind of power adapter exactly for this types of syma power adapter to charge more then one battery at the same time? Any URL would be more then helpful.
burky39
Member
It is possible to buy such chargers, but the ones I have seen are relatively cheap, and while I'm guessing, I believe they take 3X longer to charge three batteries, so there would be no gain in time saved.
In addition, given the problems with li-ion batteries catching on fire if not charged correctly, and the fact that the charging process requires charge balancing of the multiple cells within a battery assembly, I would worry about how a cheap charger accomplishes that when multiple batteries are charged together. Perhaps there are expensive chargers that can accomplish this, but my preference is to just buy multiple duplicates of the charger that comes with the X8G such as this one from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B..._52?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FFZZ7F8QZ8VBP1EPHWTF
For only $9@ this can give you as many "charge stations" as you want.
To find other alternatives Google "syma x8g battery charger" and you will get a lot of choices.
Bostjanc
Member
My first accident 
Time to buy spare parts 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_Cst0SCMGxWenRQUkpqRlJXSDA
Time to buy spare parts https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_Cst0SCMGxWenRQUkpqRlJXSDA
burky39
Member
Ohhh! You came down hard! Even my fall from 400? hundred feet high, when I lost control of my quad a few weeks ago didn't result in any damage, but the drone landed in grass. Yours looks like a hard landing on something much harder.
Ouch, and sincere sympathies for the experience!
Ouch, and sincere sympathies for the experience!
Chuck
Well-Known Member
I learned the hard way myself this summer. Taking off from concrete or asphalt paved surfaces is one thing. Landings however, are best done on grass, or loose sand. Going to be spending the cold weather, repairing the lower fuselage of my JJRC H25, and replacing the FCB, which didn't take too well to the hard landings.My first accident
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_Cst0SCMGxWenRQUkpqRlJXSDA
Bostjanc
Member
Well, I lost my dron on sunday (RIP). Heavy wind and it went somewhere in the woods. I have tried to find it 2 hours and then gave up.
I am thinking about buying similar Syma dron because I have so many extra parts (battery, charger)
I'm thinking aboutthis one:
http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_321222.html?wid=21
What's the difference between SYMA X8G and X8HG?
Does Syma has any better/more expensive product then this two models? With best regards
I am thinking about buying similar Syma dron because I have so many extra parts (battery, charger)
I'm thinking aboutthis one:
http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_321222.html?wid=21
What's the difference between SYMA X8G and X8HG?
Does Syma has any better/more expensive product then this two models? With best regards
Jackson
USA member at large
Why not move up a notch to something with long lasting, powerful brushless motors? This can easily haul a gimbal and standard action cam.
http://www.banggood.com/BAYANGTOYS-...RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1056425.html?rmmds=search
Check out some YouTube vids folks seem to like them.
http://www.banggood.com/BAYANGTOYS-...RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1056425.html?rmmds=search
Check out some YouTube vids folks seem to like them.
Bostjanc
Member
One more thing. I see that Syma X8G has lower voltage battery: 7.4V 2000mAh Lithium battery.
And Bayangtoys X16 has 11.1V 2200mAh Lipo battery. I have three spare batteries from Syma left. Do you think that this battery with lower voltage from Syma would work with Bayangtoys X16?
And Bayangtoys X16 has 11.1V 2200mAh Lipo battery. I have three spare batteries from Syma left. Do you think that this battery with lower voltage from Syma would work with Bayangtoys X16?
burky39
Member
A single cell Li-on battery cell is 3.7 volts. Most cell phones turn off when this cell voltage reaches 3.0 volts, or a 19% voltage drop.
A similar drop for the 11.1 volt system would be to 9 volts. The 7.4 volt batteries, even fully charged, are so much lower, I would not expect the them to work at all.
A similar drop for the 11.1 volt system would be to 9 volts. The 7.4 volt batteries, even fully charged, are so much lower, I would not expect the them to work at all.