Smya X8G Highly Updated and Improved User Manual
Manofice3484
New Member
I signed up to say, well done! X8G is my first quadcopters, I since have gotten a Hubsan H107P to practice on. Your guide is much better!
KevinHanson
Member
I find it humorous that you spend a week correcting the "incoherent English" and then you misspell "Syma" not once, but THREE times in the title of this thread and your first post.
LOL!!
LOL!!
KevinHanson
Member
GearBest is in China. Anything less than 4 weeks delivery time is unheard of. It's China, guys.
Well, not always. Have had ~ 30+ orders with GB over last several years and I’d estimate average delivery time to be about two weeks, sometime less. I’ve never had an order take a month. But maybe I'm lucky.
Peeps seem to sleep on EBay. Sure, there are problem sellers out there but if you shop around and check feedback carefully you‘ll be fine. I order e-packet delivery from China on The Bay for parts frequently and get them in about 10 days.
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burky39
Member
LOL indeed and then some! :-( Can't believe I did that. Too often the fingers and brain seem to disconnect! Hopefully I got it right in the Manual.
Thom41
New Member
burk39 - Thanks for the manual update. I just purchased the X8C a few days ago. Thought the manual was better than most Chinish manuals but yours is a vast improvement. I'm new to quads but found the X8C to be much easier to fly than any of the RC model airplanes I've flown. Comment about transmitter modes. I have an old Futaba FP-2GS transmitter with 2 joy sticks: the left one went left and the right, the right went forward and backward, for rudder and elevator control, respectively. It became Mode 1 'cause it was the oldest one around.
burky39
Member
This week I learned I should read my own manual better! After months of flying practice I finally got my nerve up and put the HD camera on my Quad.
In my excitement to get it aloft I messed up two things.... I forgot to put it in High Power mode and also neglected to set the Headless Mode which I usually use as it is so hard to tell the Quad's orientation by looking at it aloft.
After launching the Quad and getting it up to altitude, I then rotated it's orientation so the camera was pointing back at me and just then the wind picked up and started pushing the craft away from me.
When I attempted to correct direction, the craft started going away faster and I fought it for 5-10 seconds (thinking it was the wind) before I realized that without the "Headless Mode" I was sending the craft away instead of back towards me. The Quad was also climbing and the wind was really pushing it and with it in Low Power mode I was not able to get it to start coming back.
By this time it was getting far enough away and high enough that I could barely tell what effect my guidance was having and it started seeming like maybe I was even out of radio range, or the battery was getting weak, as it started losing altitude and finally was out of sight below trees/houses.
I searched for an hour but couldn't find it, and assumed I had lost both the Quad and my new and never used camera!
Advised a lawn cutting service of my loss, and gave several crews my phone number if they spotted it that day.
Got a call later that they found it, about 50' away from a large pond that it was clearly heading for.
Moral of the story. Never start flying near the downwind side of a field as you are already near your flying site boundary. And, check out your controls before you fly too high or far away.
Fortunately my Quad lives to fly another day! [
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In my excitement to get it aloft I messed up two things.... I forgot to put it in High Power mode and also neglected to set the Headless Mode which I usually use as it is so hard to tell the Quad's orientation by looking at it aloft.
After launching the Quad and getting it up to altitude, I then rotated it's orientation so the camera was pointing back at me and just then the wind picked up and started pushing the craft away from me.
When I attempted to correct direction, the craft started going away faster and I fought it for 5-10 seconds (thinking it was the wind) before I realized that without the "Headless Mode" I was sending the craft away instead of back towards me. The Quad was also climbing and the wind was really pushing it and with it in Low Power mode I was not able to get it to start coming back.
By this time it was getting far enough away and high enough that I could barely tell what effect my guidance was having and it started seeming like maybe I was even out of radio range, or the battery was getting weak, as it started losing altitude and finally was out of sight below trees/houses.
I searched for an hour but couldn't find it, and assumed I had lost both the Quad and my new and never used camera!
Advised a lawn cutting service of my loss, and gave several crews my phone number if they spotted it that day.
Got a call later that they found it, about 50' away from a large pond that it was clearly heading for.
Moral of the story. Never start flying near the downwind side of a field as you are already near your flying site boundary. And, check out your controls before you fly too high or far away.
Fortunately my Quad lives to fly another day! [
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Bostjanc
Member
Burky hi. I have ordered the same quad and still waiting for the delivery. Thank you for making a better manual. I have a question regarding the battery life. I saw a dude having this cables: http://mmc.bolha.com/1/image/201505/202326/SYMA-X8G-8MP-kamera_57c3eba7a3f3a.jpg Is it possible that he managed to put three batteries on Quad and attach them onto it? Or is that cable used for sth else.
with best regards
with best regards
burky39
Member
Bostjanc - Out of context I can only guess what the cable was for. While it is possible the dude was looking for more flying time, that seems unlikely as there is not room in most aircraft for multiple batteries, AND further, even if you taped the batteries on, I would expect the added weight to largely negate any battery gains since it would take full time full-power flying just to lift all of that extra battery weight.
The cable might have been intended to charge multiple batteries at the same time, but I'm also wary of that, as most aircraft now use Lithium batteries, which are critical (ie, the Samsung S7 Note exploding batteries in the news now) with regard on how they are charged. They need special chargers that "balance" the final charge in the batteries cells, and I'm not an expert, but I have to wonder if that could be done properly with a charger that wasn't expecting such a load.
PLUS most chargers have limited output. The cable, in the link, is wired for parallel battery connections. That means the limited charger output will probably take three times as long to charge the batteries!!
So there is no gain. Might as well charge the batteries one at a time, as there will be negligible differences in the final result. Only the connect and disconnect times will add to an overall time.
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The cable might have been intended to charge multiple batteries at the same time, but I'm also wary of that, as most aircraft now use Lithium batteries, which are critical (ie, the Samsung S7 Note exploding batteries in the news now) with regard on how they are charged. They need special chargers that "balance" the final charge in the batteries cells, and I'm not an expert, but I have to wonder if that could be done properly with a charger that wasn't expecting such a load.
PLUS most chargers have limited output. The cable, in the link, is wired for parallel battery connections. That means the limited charger output will probably take three times as long to charge the batteries!!
So there is no gain. Might as well charge the batteries one at a time, as there will be negligible differences in the final result. Only the connect and disconnect times will add to an overall time.
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Bostjanc
Member
Ok false alarm Green light disappeared.
I have flied today and got very dissapointed. I have left the automatic mode to default 1, since mode1 is noob mode, after that i have held left corner button for couple of seconds to turn headless mode and then lifted the dron. I dunno if the remote control is a crap / damage but i couldnt manage to fly dron backwards as where i was standing. It just got forward more or less. Are fine tuning mandatory to configure them for working forward/backwards commands because I havent configured them as i was expecting that dron should go forward and backwards by default with no problems. Maybe it kept going forward and not backwards because of heavy wind today...
Anyway 1st impressions was sad, and another thing how do you know (on remote control display) if headless mode got enabled or not?
With best regards and plz someone reply
Green light disappeared.I have flied today and got very dissapointed. I have left the automatic mode to default 1, since mode1 is noob mode, after that i have held left corner button for couple of seconds to turn headless mode and then lifted the dron. I dunno if the remote control is a crap / damage but i couldnt manage to fly dron backwards as where i was standing. It just got forward more or less. Are fine tuning mandatory to configure them for working forward/backwards commands because I havent configured them as i was expecting that dron should go forward and backwards by default with no problems. Maybe it kept going forward and not backwards because of heavy wind today...
Anyway 1st impressions was sad, and another thing how do you know (on remote control display) if headless mode got enabled or not?
With best regards and plz someone reply
burky39
Member
With the propeller guards on, there is some loss of control power, and if you are flying in the default "L" (low power) mode (tap the left top corner button once to change from L to H [High power] mode), then it can be difficult to fly in winds much above 5 mph. I always fly in H (High power) mode now. My episode above reported, where my quad got away from me was because I forgot to go into "H" mode and as the craft gained altitude and hit higher wind speeds, it rapidly got blown away from me.
Your fine tuning trim setting will also make a difference. Once you set the trim on the controller, it remains as long as the controller has batteries in it to keep the memory alive, so you normally don't need to adjust trim from day to day use.
I initially rough set the trim by slowly increasing the lift throttle when the drone is on a hard surface (not grass where the feet can get tangled in the grass). As the drone tries to lift off, if it does so with a clear intent to go other than straight up, then trim to adjust, and repeat until you get a reasonable (centered direction stick) liftoff. Then once in the air, and in the presence of no wind, I fine tune the trim adjustments to keep the drone as steady as possible in the same spot.
Note that the trim settings show in the "bar graph" indicators on the controller. Note those results, and after you have to change your controller batteries, you can restore your trim settings without having to test fly all over again.
Your fine tuning trim setting will also make a difference. Once you set the trim on the controller, it remains as long as the controller has batteries in it to keep the memory alive, so you normally don't need to adjust trim from day to day use.
I initially rough set the trim by slowly increasing the lift throttle when the drone is on a hard surface (not grass where the feet can get tangled in the grass). As the drone tries to lift off, if it does so with a clear intent to go other than straight up, then trim to adjust, and repeat until you get a reasonable (centered direction stick) liftoff. Then once in the air, and in the presence of no wind, I fine tune the trim adjustments to keep the drone as steady as possible in the same spot.
Note that the trim settings show in the "bar graph" indicators on the controller. Note those results, and after you have to change your controller batteries, you can restore your trim settings without having to test fly all over again.