so you want a quadcopter or multirotor

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by holtneil, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. holtneil

    holtneil Well-Known Member Moderator

    Hi I found with my wifes Phantom to only use throttle when taking off or landing , its a bit like a FBL Heli no cyclic input till its off the deck
     
  2. jimmy

    jimmy Active Member

    And when I take off should I do it fast or slowly I found one time I went fast and went great
     
  3. holtneil

    holtneil Well-Known Member Moderator

    Hi Jimmy Yes on the phantom when you arm it the props will spin ready for take off , then hit the throttle to just over mid point , as the Phantom pops up reduce throttle to the centre of the throttle range and it will hover , when you land use the cyclic to steer it to where you want to land then reduce throttle try not to use cyclic at this point and it will land then disarm
     
  4. jimmy

    jimmy Active Member

    What is cyclic
     
  5. holtneil

    holtneil Well-Known Member Moderator

    Hi Jimmy, Helicopter talk its the right stick the one you will steer the quad with
     
  6. Quadcopter102

    Quadcopter102 Well-Known Member

    I have just spent some time on Gearbest - sorting an order for the WLToys 686G, spare batteries and props.... waiting for a "support" reply about customs/duties etc and came on the forum to read more posts.... then I see yours and wonder what is the problem... if you would be OK to mention. having used ebay as buyer and seller... I know that my bum deal may have been a glitch and 10,000 others buying the same thing had no issues. Its bad enough having to wait weeks for a delivery.. so I was hoping to at least get the stuff I ordered. Any other readers have info re sellers that would help a real newbie to get some gear and avoid pitfalls..
     
  7. GJH105775

    GJH105775 Avid Linux User, and U.S. Air Force 1C631 Moderator

    I have learned that if you want something quick and easy.... use Amazon prime. I am very cheap so I still get a lot from Hobbyking and some china stores haha.
     
  8. Quadcopter102

    Quadcopter102 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info..... I have in fact looked into Amazon... but I am in Sydney Australia - and from looking at the buy options - most - if not all still seem to be shipping from China. Price wise - there is little between what is on Amazon and what Gearbest, Bang Good and Ever Buying are offering. Just wondering how all the other guys went on buying from the three I just mentioned...as they seem to sit at the top table of quad sellers.
     
  9. Jackson

    Jackson USA member at large

    One thing about Everbuying is that they do actually ship within 24 hrs. With Gearbest 5 days is the norm. Also note Everbuying will price match.
     
  10. Quadcopter102

    Quadcopter102 Well-Known Member

    Aug, 7, 2015 at 7:55PM
    Hi Jackson, Thanks for that info - EB seem to charge a little more than GB - but maybe its worth a few $$$ for a little faster delivery - sent two Price match requests to EB but so far no reply....


    Aug 8, 2015 at 9:01 PM
    I know this is an old post of yours...but I have been looking at the YouTube stuff on the WL toys 303v - by now you have had lots of experience with it and I would appreciate your opinion of its performance.


    Aug 8, 2015 at 9:07PM
    Placed order with Ever Buying 08-08-2015 so I guess delivery anytime up to 29-08-2015 !!!! Their price was US$75 for the WLtoys 686G also added 10 sets of propellers and 5 batteries - with insurance it came to US$122 in total.


    Aug10, 2015 at 11:08 PM
    Not going well so far.... EB took payment - 2 days later - notice to say no stock for 2 weeks... or ( a couple of options) replied.
    Today another notice to say order on hold because they need CC details...?? - why after taking payment by PP?? Replied that EB opened two support tickets and somebody should read both and advise order status!!

    Is there any place in Sydney or even all Australia where I can walk in and buy ???
     
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  11. TannFrost

    TannFrost New Member

    I had worked on many Electronics projects till now. now i want to start work on the Quadcopter. Can you please clear me the difference between the Quadcopter and Multirotor? I want to know about the Motors which should be used in any quadcopter and how i could choose any? What type of MCU unit can work best with these type of projects?

    www.7pcb.ca
     
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  12. Quadcopter102

    Quadcopter102 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum.....

    Drone, quadcopter, multi-rotor are all names for what we mostly call quadcopters ie a flying "toy" with more than one propeller, their are three prop 'copters - and more common are four prop "quadcopters" and there are 6 prop copters.
    A lot of pro versions have multiple props to power lift their load - usually cameras.
    The USA tends to use "Drone" more than others - the press around the world seem to use "Drone" which creates a mindset that we can all fly around with bombs or missiles.

    If you want info on building your own gear - I suggest you go to the - First Build - and other sections of this forum and read up on the many threads there. Click on "forums" at the top of this page and it opens all the relevant sections. There are some guys with a wealth of info and knowledge who will be pleased to help you where they can.
     
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  13. Mike H.

    Mike H. Toy Quad Builder

    Yea ..The word "DRONE" is used by the media as said; as sort of a propaganda campaign to try and make it seem like a bad thing.

    Tricopter= 3 motors and props
    Quadcopter= 4 motor and props. (Most common)
    Hexacopter= 6 or 8 motors and props.

    As with helicopters, i dont generally recommend a hobby grade quad as a first experience.

    Alot of knowledge needed for proper parts combinations and especially programming and not to mention safety issues as well.

    If most toy quads bump into you or someone else and, a blade hits you ,it might scratch you at best..With a real hobby grade ,the blade can simply slice right into you and leave you with large gashes requiring medical attention as the motors are extremely more powerful.

    Another thing i consider is cost...Its not so bad when a gust of wind takes away your $20.00 to $50.00 investment or you crash and brake something.

    The cheaper toy quads are really a blast of fun and a gateway to bigger and better things..These toys are so much fun in fact that many experienced flyers that have them as well ,tend to have just as much fun with them if not more than the hobby grade...A hobby grade is more of a responsibility in my opinion than ,just flat out fun with not much worry or consequence.

    Todays toy quad technology is getting very impressive as technology trickles down and, its a no brainer to make that your start into the world of flying

    Ive 30yrs of rc experience and could easily move on to a hobby grade quad but, im having so much fun with the toy models i haven't felt the need to move on...lol.

    Aside from needing a platform to use high quality cameras and video, you really dont need a hobby grade quad...You can get toy grade quads with full FPV options and with some proper radios and mods can get as far as 150m or more easily...ive actually heard of over 300m in some cases...... but ,150m is far or ,high enough away that you cant even see the quad anyways...50 meters is about 100 feet so, at 150 meters away, thats the entire length of an american football field or 300ft...300 meters would be about an 1/8 of a mile away.
     
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  14. GJH105775

    GJH105775 Avid Linux User, and U.S. Air Force 1C631 Moderator

    The problem with getting a toy grade quad is that they don't hold as much weight for more electronics. Toy grade quads (about all non modular quadcopters that use DC motors) are fun and great tools to learn to fly, but hobby grade open many new abilities and higher quality stuff. You pretty much get what you pay for.
     
  15. Mike H.

    Mike H. Toy Quad Builder

    I agree...the super high quality gear is certainly too heavy for a smaller sized toy quad...but, they do have fpv options with monitors attached to the radios..No gps and other fancy features but, still a great way to get started.

    I'll be showing off quite a few of my toy projects so some can see how capable they can be for such little money:D
     
  16. GJH105775

    GJH105775 Avid Linux User, and U.S. Air Force 1C631 Moderator

    Hahaha, sounds good. They are really a fun little gateway drug before you get into the hard stuff that hurts/kills your wallet. xD YOu can fly them about anywhere vs having to make plans for the day hahaha.
     
  17. Mike H.

    Mike H. Toy Quad Builder

    You might be surprised:cool:...Im off to work..be back tonight sometime.
     
  18. GJH105775

    GJH105775 Avid Linux User, and U.S. Air Force 1C631 Moderator

    Hahaha, I have seen some pretty impressive ones that were not hobby grade.
     
  19. Corona Kevo

    Corona Kevo New Member

    Watch "ElectroHub Quadcopter with Leds" on YouTube
     
  20. Proxxii

    Proxxii Well-Known Member

    I have some dys 1806 motors and had some 30A simonk escs that have no use. I know the dys motors can only handle 7.6A as long as I don't over thrust the motors won't burn out right? If this won't work please let me know I'd rather not blow motors out just to save 20$ or so. Thanks :)
     

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