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So of the data on that chart the most efficent quad would have a 3S 465kv with 18x6.1 props, and would produce 530g of thrust at ~33% throttle

Below. :( haha Edit: haha good timing looking now

Haha, I have done a few rolls and flips(unintentionally while tuning it xD) a few ended in mine driving into the ground at full throttle. Also I have found that you can get pretty good video by strapping a camera to a headlamp and wearing it.

I'd suggest a gimbal with it's own controller. How much do you plan to spend on one? Also what size is the copter your looking at, a gimbal is heavy.

Haha, k, the cc3d will be pretty stable, and as with any you can tune it to be better (or worse) any video with a cc3d will show you what you are looking for.

They look REALLY nice for beginners. I may decide to buy, or build one haha.

I hope so haha. How have you come along?

This if for general three phase motors (both full sized and hobby), but the motor will be designed to run lets say 10s and will be around lets say 100kv rather than a 3s running at 333 kv The RPMs are the same, but the KV is lower allowing it to run the same prop drawing much less amperage.

The plastic will usually be black (can be colored) and will be soft and flexible

That is true, but I am talking about the motors being designed for higher voltage and drawing less amperage. This theoretically gives higher efficiency, but in practice you don't gain much efficiency.

If you are using ABS props thaat are even a bit larger then they flex causing terrible vibrations

Yeah, if you order from hobby king, know that they usually have the best prices, but shipping is really high, so when you do get things off them you have to buy everything at once to save any money.

Might make hte series a little more daunting haha.

It depends, I have had to wait a month a few times and have known people to get an item the next day. Haha, it just feels that slow xD

Haha, if not just tell me or Neil and we can more it. Thanks for the review by the way.

Look for hairline cracks, they are often harder to see.

Sounds like you would have fried part of the ATmel but I'd suggest you look for burnt parts, often things like diodes, transistors and cheap parts will burn first, you can replace one of those and save the board.

Interesting, where did you supply the power to the board, on the 5v buss, or to the voltage tester pins?

Haha, I am pulling scabs to just by hobby grade, let alone professional. Though I'd love to have something like that, I'd also love to have my own full sized plane haha.