building a 330 for carrying camera etc.

ram1000

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I ordered a Flamewheel 330 that I want to put together to carry a max'd out load. Not a car or boat but a couple cameras, a couple batteries, and I want it to fly like my wife's Syma x5c-1 in terms of stability and maneuverability. My question is what FCB to use to achieve this???
 
Well you should be able to get much more stability than the Syma.

Depending on your budget the CC3D (inexpensive)) should easily surpass the Syma for both stability and maneuverability.

It has a number of flight modes (with all sorts of tweaking) and is well documented with many good YouTube vids.

https://wiki.openpilot.org/display/WIKI/Stabilization

 
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Well you should be able to get much stability than the Syma.

Depending on your budget the CC3D (inexpensive)) should easily surpass the Syma for both stability and maneuverability.

It has a number of flight modes (with all sorts of tweaking) and is well documented with many good YouTube vids.

https://wiki.openpilot.org/display/WIKI/Stabilization


I second that CC3D should be fine, maybe a KK if you need something super easy.
 
Yea my comments are based on the extreme difficulty flying my recently purchased VooDoo 280 which I presume has a CC3 or Naza FCB. That being the case I can't imagine one of these boards being easy as the Syma copter. There is simply nothing hard about flying the Syma. To say a FCB is more maneuverable I understand but I want maneuverability by switching to that mode rather than sacrificing ease of flying until I get over the learning curve- which is akin to the curve of the earth at this time!
 
So basically you bought a racing quad? And you never did any kind of adjustments to the FCB.
but I want maneuverability by switching to that mode rather than sacrificing ease of flying

The SYMA's yaw/rudder is quite slow and it's pitch/roll is not very steep. If that's what you like CC3D can easily be configured that way and throw in a little self levelling to boot, get in a little trouble let go of the right stick and the quad will level itself. If you have a 3 way switch you can set 3 flight modes all with different parameters and click through them as you like.

There are various screens in the software where a myriad of adjustments can be made to suit your skills.
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If you want to build, you gotta learn how these FCB work.

Sounds like you'd be a candidate for an easy to fly Phantom. The originals are still out there for <$500.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=phantom+quad
 
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Don't know which FCB my quad has but I would like to have a mode that reduces those things to a manageable level- however the learning curve for making changes is just as steep as the one for flying these things...
 
I have seen most of the super camera carrying machines but I want to build one or more in fact...part of my bad nature I guess...
 
Yea my comments are based on the extreme difficulty flying my recently purchased VooDoo 280 which I presume has a CC3 or Naza FCB. That being the case I can't imagine one of these boards being easy as the Syma copter. There is simply nothing hard about flying the Syma. To say a FCB is more maneuverable I understand but I want maneuverability by switching to that mode rather than sacrificing ease of flying until I get over the learning curve- which is akin to the curve of the earth at this time!


If you are still a bit of a novice flyier and want something you can make feild adjustments the KK can be just as responsive if adjusted right with some better firmware on it.
 
That screen your showing me is entirely new to me I'm only a little bit familiar with a program called "baseflight". Can these programs be plugged into any FCB or are they specific to each board? I have been tuning my yaw on the VooDoo as when I got it it was too slow to make a 360 degree movement around its axis. It is still about as slow as the Syma quad but that is not the problem. I think the learning curve is more related to the extreme power the VooDoo has and how quickly things get out of hand. I doubt changing the pitch or roll or yaw is going to help me there, in fact I can operate those things with some alacrity now. Another problem I have is distance- I can't see which way the quad is facing to move my pitch in order to get the quad back closer to my field of vision. Oh well just part of the learning curve... This hobby requires new props for each recharge of the battery...
 
I have a flight program on my laptop that allows me to fly whatever vehicle I choose and I notice that I can fly the touchy quad easily from FPV mode but watching it on the ground I usually crash it. I think when I get FPV on my VooDoo I may have an easier time.
 
Its really not relevant to me at this point I have no idea how or why to change anything except the yaw that I mentioned earlier. I will be learning one problem at a time I guess. For instance I have no idea how to set up two or three different flight programing parameters on my FCB or my radio. These things are way too advanced for me to experiment with by myself. I have been guided through a few setup parameters by the people I bought my quad from but I may as well have been blind as I did it, because I don't know why anything was changed consequently I don't know how to change anything for the better.

BTW my quad flies without any adverse effects, its just that it seems to want to climb with just the slightest throttle input and it needs too much room for my skill to send it into a flight pattern. As I said before I can't see which way the thing is headed when it gets out there so far and so quickly...I can't tell if I should pitch forward or back to get it back into range???
 
BTW my quad flies without any adverse effects, its just that it seems to want to climb with just the slightest throttle input and it needs too much room for my skill to send it into a flight pattern. As I said before I can't see which way the thing is headed when it gets out there so far and so quickly...I can't tell if I should pitch forward or back to get it back into range???
What TX did you get? This one?

dx6i-glamour.png

Either way look at expos and dual rates.


Of course these curves can be adjusted in the FCB also.

VehicleConfig-Multirotor.png


Orientation is the toughest nut to crack, make sure to use different colored props in front and/or different colored arms.

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Hell get one of them ball thingies too.

http://quadcopter101.blogspot.com/2014/02/flight-school-6-distance-flying-keeping.html
 
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What TX did you get? This one?

dx6i-glamour.png

Either way look at expos and dual rates.


Of course these curves can be adjusted in the FCB also.

VehicleConfig-Multirotor.png


Orientation is the toughest nut to crack, make sure to use different colored props in front and/or different colored arms.

maxresdefault.jpg

Hell get one of them ball thingies too.

http://quadcopter101.blogspot.com/2014/02/flight-school-6-distance-flying-keeping.html



I second that; what ever seems to help you is the best option, these ways are by far the most used. Also if you loose orientation just push to go forward and try to regain it. Most people will say to learn with just stabilization and no auto-level (AKA Rate mode)
 
If i push forward after losing orientation I'll never see it again it goes too fast...
I have a DX6 not a 6I. If I knew what I was doing I would have been fine with a 6I...
 
If i push forward after losing orientation I'll never see it again it goes too fast...
I have a DX6 not a 6I. If I knew what I was doing I would have been fine with a 6I...


Well I did not mean break the stick xD, just enough to make it drift forward a little bit. Ouch, I know the feeling of not spending an extra couple bucks for something that is a lot better. It is supposed to work with airplanes so it should work for quads fine. Can you adjust stick gains in the quad?
 
If i push forward after losing orientation I'll never see it again it goes too fast...
I have a DX6 not a 6I. If I knew what I was doing I would have been fine with a 6I...

The DX6 also has throttle curve adjustments, you could try reading the manual.
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Didn't watch Quadcopter 101's link that I posted on orientation I guess, don't 'push forward', give it some rudder and see which way it turns. With your actual FCB you could first kick it into auto-level mode then use the rudder.

You no provided no info on what you have, seems like you haven't even taken the time to figure what flight controller you have, so obviously you haven't reviewed any of that documentation or your DX6's.

Whining won't help anything.

Good Luck, maybe pray to the quadcopter fairy to show up and work a miracle for you.
 
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