Help. I made a dumb mistake!! Need a controller for Eachine M80.

[wafflejock]

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Sounds like there should be a bind button on the transmitter somewhere you'll need to hold down while powering up the transmitter to get it to search. You usually need to hold the bind button or toggle switch until the receiver gives a solid light. Once it's bound can move on to betaflight configuration of the receiver. Without doing that config won't be able to arm or do anything but will allow you to customize what your switches do etc. as well. The solid light is all we're going for at the moment though. The initial slow flashing is probably when it's looking for already bound transmitter that is on.

 

[davidhk129]

There is no button at the back of the transmitter. I've read that PDF instructions too.
I have the solid green on the quad now.
How? Watch one u-tube. The guy spoke with different language. He turned the quad face down when connecting the battery.
That's how I got the light in solid green. BUT, the red light at the bottom is still flashing.
That's as far as it goes.
How to arm the motors etc ???

 

[wafflejock]

Hard to tell without seeing what you're looking at if it's the receiver light or some other light that is solid vs flashing, would be good if you can take some pics and share here then can draw on the images and point at what is what.

If you want to assume it's bound then the next step is connecting the flight controller to the computer and using betaflight software to configure the receiver. If it's sold a "Bind 'n Fly" or BNF then the flight controller should already be configured for the receiver, basically after installing betaflight and plugging in the FC with a USB (usually micro-USB plug) then can hit connect in betaflight and let us know if it connects. If so looking for receiver tab on the left side to see if it's currently configured correctly otherwise will need to jump back to the ports/configuration tab to get the settings for the receiver correct so stick movement shows up on the receiver section/tab.

 

[wafflejock]

Also just heads up this is a hurdle we all go through of learning how to do binding and how to configure betaflight after you've done it once it's far less intimidating, but don't get frustrated if it takes some time to figure it all out first time through (YouTube is your friend here too). Betaflight supports or runs on lots of different hardware and can connect with all sorts of receivers but all that flexibility comes at the cost of needing to learn to configure/set it up properly (for what you want and your hardware)

 

[davidhk129]

It's too much !! `I pick this hobby for old age enjoyment. Not for irritation. I've that with my Windows 10.

Anyone wants them ?
I am selling both the M80 and the ORX transmitter for C$70. You pay for the shipping.
I bought the M80 from Banggood for C$43.79. I had coupon discount at that time.
I bought the ORX transmitter from eBay for C$96.83 ( US$73.90)
Total : C$140.62

 

[Dugdog47]

Don't give up you just have to get through your cussing phase, (bnf, I used to call them cuss and fly) lol.

 

[davidhk129]

It's not that I don't want to learn. I never mind learning new stuff.
I self-taught myself on computer when I was 66 and I have a MVP title from Microsoft Community. I did not take computer course at college. It was not available back then.

In order to learn, there has to have qualified Instructions materials.
I can't learn if there aren't any available.

 

[Dugdog47]

I feel ya bro, you can blame eachine for that. They put out a product with no instructions.

There are more popular quadcopters out there than your M80.

Why did you buy that one? There are far better options at that price and some of them even come with instructions on how to set em up lol.

The eachine M80 is basically an obsolete lower end quad.

 

[wafflejock]

Ugh yah okay sorry looking at the FC on the M80 now it looks like it doesn't have the microUSB port which makes things a much bigger pain in the butt when it comes to trying to connect to the computer and get betaflight talking to it... well that's super unfortunate, as much as I hate to say it I think you might be right to throw in the towel on the quad here at least. If you got it to bind you might be able to arm it with the old stick style arming, but personally prefer having an arm switch I toggle on or off for arming my quads so I don't have to do something funky with the sticks. Can see built in stick commands here:

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Also see the receiver is stacked right onto the FC which makes it more confusing to distinguish those things

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Edit transmitter is still probably good don't know if I would bail entirely on this but not sure I'd bother much with the quad either. Personally always want the FC to have a micro-usb or I won't buy it because I want to be able to easily connect and configure (also ideal if it has a boot mode button instead of making me short some random pins temporarily if I want to flash a newer version of betaflight).

 

[Dugdog47]

When I bought my first bnf wizard last year at least it said "does not include instructions" lol.

I see it everyday, people buying these cheap eachine bnfs and can't get em flying. On the banggood site the reviews were even saying people were having problems getting them to bind.

A little advice, read the review and question section before you click "buy now" lol.

 

[davidhk129]

I bought this M80 primary that it has an altitude hold feature.
I need that to learn how to fly with a goggle which I have Eachine EV800.
I can't fly with the goggle without altitude hold, and I am not going to demolish my Bugs 3 and Bugs 3 Mini for that.
Hence the M80.

 

[Dugdog47]

The Chinese translation to English sometimes lots gets lost. They say the M80 has alt hold, turtle mode, 3 flight modes yet there is no way to hook it up the betaflight to set any of this up.

You should E mail banggood and tell them they are unscrupulous for selling a product without instructions. Might not do any good but you never know.

 

[davidhk129]

RE : A little advice, read the review and question section before you click "buy now" lol.
RE : They say the M80 has alt hold, turtle mode, 3 flight modes yet there is no way to hook it up the betaflight to set any of this up.

I always do some "research" before buying these kind of things.
In saw the turtle feature and the altitude mode in action on You-tube.
Here is just one of the examples......

 

[Dugdog47]

Ah yes that guy, I forget his name but he is known for pushing junk lol.

It still makes no sense that they would have a fcb that you can't program yourself on a bnf.

I'm absolutely stumped on how you would get all that to work, although I'm no expert lol. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[wafflejock]

Yah personally went with following path of this guy

but was a few years back and vid is getting pretty dated now being made in 2015. Best bet I think is to find an up to date build guide and just follow along to get familiar with everything, even if you don't go through the process yourself it might be worth watching one so we aren't speaking greek, when it comes to FCs, ESCs, receiver/transmitter/RX/TX, VTX, PDB.

These are a couple of my favorite go-to channels on YouTube:

I think both are trust-worthy but JB is a little more critical and suspect of things so tend to trust his opinion above most others.

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Edit, isn't to say you need to go 5" or race style quads since they are a lot more expensive but 3" build would follow basically the same guide just different frame/motors/escs/props, but way all those things go together is the same regardless and way betaflight is configured is basically the same (differences in configuring receiver there but that's about the only variation aside from personal choices). The M80 you got has all the ESCs built into the FC because it uses brushed motors, I strongly recommend getting something brushless even in the micro class of quad.

 

[davidhk129]

Since I am not "a sane genius", I doubt I will be able to figure this mess out.
My investment failure amounts to $140.
Think I'll claim a write off of $1400 on my tax return. Revenue Canada wouldn't audit me, would they?

 

[wafflejock]

Since I am not "a sane genius", I doubt I will be able to figure this mess out.
My investment failure amounts to $140.
Think I'll claim a write off of $1400 on my tax return. Revenue Canada wouldn't audit me, would they?

Yah I'd just chalk up the M80 as a loss or get a micro FC with brushed ESCs (I know the one from betafpv is decent but the spektrum receiver they shipped with had drop outs with my dx6i so I used a autobinding spektrum receiver I already had from an old quad with it, FC itself was fine though).

If you decide you want to give that a go I can help give you direct guidance since I have one here and can give pictures and screenshots. Just hard guessing what random Chinese companies decided to do and as you've discovered documentation can be limited to nothing. This is definitely something I look for before ordering anything if the site doesn't provide a manual with clearly written English or there isn't a clear YouTube vid showing me every step with a thing then I don't do it... Like you said do this for fun not worth struggling too much with but also some hurdles are worth getting past.

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^^ that one looks good to me has micro USB connection has built in dsmx receiver (dsm2 protocol was a problem on my dx6i transmitter)


BetaFPV stuff like all electronics almost comes from China, but the quality is good and the documentation is pretty well done. It costs a bit more but worth it in time and headache savings (think of all the ibuprofen savings )

 

[wafflejock]

Just saw this too came out 15 min ago talk about timing

Unfortunately series is a work in progress, but hopefully turns out to be a good series.

 

[davidhk129]

My goal is to be able to fly a drone with the goggle.
$140 has been spent. I am in deep enough. Can't pull out now and deny myself a chance.
So I looked around and found this from Amazon.com. The US site.

S85 Micro FPV Racing Drone RTF FPV Quadcopter Mirarobot Cyclone Drone 8520 Motor 5.8G 48CH 25MW 600TVL FPV Camera(RTF)

I watched numerous u-tubes about this quad.
It looks exactly like the M80. It must have less built-ins but that's not important to me.
It has a 5.8g image transmission. Altitude Hold. Turtle mode. Remote Control RTF. That's what I need.
So, I bought it.
Cost me C$122. Oddly, I end up paying less than I would have to pay to Amazon.ca. Currency exchange, shipping etc figured into the equation.
So, I am now close to $300 invested on my dream.
Yes it is an illogical move. Pretty stupid I must say. But I am 76. I am entitled to be stupid by this age. ha ha ha.

 

[wafflejock]

Why go with a 1 star review one, says in review no ability to connect to computer. Would suggest cancelling that order should just give us a budget and what you want and can find something if it exists. This one looks like more of the same. Know others have said it before but buy nice or buy twice. Watch the rotor riot getting started vid above, first three vids are speaking directly to you

Also the betafpv board I suggested would be plug and play except soldering two wires for the camera/VTX power, would cost less and has USB for configuration.