Review: Syma X5C-1

Ant

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Hi everyone! Im actually new to this forum, but am quite active over on the laserpointerforums. Recently I was approached by Leo from www.Tinydeal.com and asked whether I would consider doing a review on anything on their website! In the end I decided to have a shot at testing a Syma X5C-1 as this seemed like a decent quadcopter for beginners. ;)

Specifications

Brand: SYMA
Material: Plastic + Alloy
Channel: 4
Gyro: Six-axis
Control Type: Radio Control
Function: Up/Down, Turning Left/Right, Forward/Backward ,Side Flying
Control Range: 100m
Frequency: 2.4GHz
Flying Time: 6-9min
Charging Time: 100min
Battery: 3.7V 500mAh Li-Po
Transmitter Battery: 4 x AA(not included)
Camera: 2 million pixels
Gross Weight: 762g/ 26.88 oz
Size: 415 x 305 x 90 mm / 16.34 x 12.01 x 3.54 inch

Introduction

I have to admit at this point, I had only ever flown a couple of small helis and had very little experience with multirotors. I discussed this with Leo from TinyDeal and he managed to persuade his manager to send out an example for review. :) Please note that even though it is listed as an X5C, the model I was sent (and the model linked above in the title) are both X5C-1s, this means the newer upgraded model.

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The shipping took just over a week, which is exceptionally good. The package was actually shipped from the Netherlands and so it looks like they may drop ship from there to Europe.

The box was not particularly well wrapped, or otherwise protected, so I was happy to see that it had arrived in one piece.

Inside there is the quad-copter ready to fly with the blades and battery installed. You'll need 4 x AA batteries for the controller though and these are not included. If you are a beginner like me, it is highly recommended to attach the four prop guards before attempting to fly!

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Under the transmitter there are; the screws for the prop-guards, a screwdriver, the charging cable (std USB charger) and a small micro-SD card reader. It was also a pleasant surprise to find a 4 GB card preinstalled in the camera. :)



There are also four replacement blades included, but these are taped to the back of the white plastic container, so please check and remove these before disposing of the packaging. ;)

The batteries were around 3.6-3.7 V which is perfect for storage, but it did mean they had to be charged before use. Typically the recharging time is around 90 mins.

Getting Started

The battery is inserted beneath the camera door on the underside of the quadcopter and as you can see in the pic below the power socket slots in to the small jack in the front. (Please note Banggood battery installed in pic, but more on that later.) The black slot on the back of the camera is where the Micro-SD card plugs in and the black button, the main on/off switch.
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When the quadcopter is switched on, all four lights blink and this means it is awaiting a pairing signal from the transmitter. To pair, place it on a level surface and switch on the transmitter. There will be an audible beep and you then need to push the throttle vertically to the max and then bring it back down to zero at the start position. The lights on the device will stop flashing and remain constantly illuminated.
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In this picture you can see gearing for the props - The motors are not brushless.
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Flight controls

Once the qudadcopter is airborne you may observe some drift and this can be easily corrected on the controller. To adjust for left, or right, horizontal drift, toggle the Aileron correction slider (silver button below right hand stick) in the opposite direction to the drift. The same goes for forward and backward drift. Here you need to move the Elevator slider and this is the vertical silver button to the left of the right hand stick. The left hand stick on the transmitter is both the throttle (up and down movement) and rotation in the horizontal plane. The silver slider button below left hand stick is the rudder trim and this fine tunes the rotation. There is no correction for the throttle. The vertical slider on the right of the first stick controls the camera; push up to take a picture and pull down to make a movie. One thing to note here, if taking a movie, you must switch off the camera ie pull the lever down again before switching off the copter, or the movie will not be saved properly.

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The Syma XC5-1 has a button for aerial flips although I admit I have not tried this yet. Ill need to be in a large open space before I try this...;)

Handling and performance

Well the only other quadcopter I could compare this to is the Hubsan X4 and I have to say there is a world of difference. The Husan sounds like an aggressive mosquito and, to be honest in comparison to the Syma, it flies like one!:whistle: Dont get me wrong its a great little multirotor, but it simply doesnt have the flight stability of the Syma. With the Hubsan it was exceptionally nervous and very difficult to get to hover and remain in one spot. Constant corrections were needed even after calibrating on a flat level surface and dialing in the minor drift adjustments on the controller. The Syma on the other hand just hovered on the spot and responded instantly and very precisely to every command. With the Syma it was also possible to put down the transmitter and it would essentially stay where it was.

Here's a pic to show the actual size difference between the Syma and Hubsan. :)
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The supplied battery gave a 7 min flight time, with the camera and guards mounted and the camera off. With the camera on, the run time is reduced to just under 5 mins. As I wanted a slightly longer flight time I decided to buy a few spare batteries and opted for some from Banggood, that had been recommended on some of the other quadcopter sites.

http://www.banggood.com/Syma-X5-16-...1 To 5 3.7V 600MAH Upgrade Battery - US$18.00

A word of warning however, the supplied charger (from Banggood) dangerously overcharged all of the batteries to 4.46 V! It was actually still charging when I decided to check with a DMM. Had I not immediately disconnected them I may have had a few fireballs in the living room.:confused:

After discharging the batteries back down to 4.2 V, they seemed to work fine although they are all now a little puffed up... The main problem with these though is the capacity which may be partially related to the internal resistance (Ri) - these replacement batteries also get quite hot after each flight. I tested the supplied battery and the Ri was 64 mOhm, but the bang good batteries tested almost double this at around 110 mOhm. A high Ri will lead to a larger voltage drop under load, which in turn will trigger the battery protection cutout in the Syma earlier giving shorter flight times. Assuming the capacity of the supplied battery is correct the current draw is very roughly calculated at 4.2 A. Anyway, these give a max of 5.5 mins under the same conditions as the supplied battery with no camera running, so they were either damaged through the over charge, or their capacity has been blatantly over rated. At 4.2 A the capacity is roughly 390 mAh.

Video and Image quality

The video resolution seems to switch between 1280 x 720 (1 MP) and 1920 x 1080 (2.1 MP) at 30 FPS and photos are 2560 × 1440 (3.7 MP), but in low light the image is very grainy. This is almost certainly due to a small sensor in the camera.

Here is a quick indoor video of the Syma in action. Unfortunately I havent been able to take the copter outdoors, because we have had nothing but rain and strong wind the last few weeks. As mentioned, I will however update the thread with proper outdoor flight and video once the conditions improve. :)

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Summary

Well this is an excellent starter model and I would highly recommend it due to it's incredible flight stability. The control unit is made of plastic and is very light, which gives it a cheapish feel, but the LED display on the unit is very useful. The camera is a nice touch and at 2 MP very functional. I would however only really recommend using it under well lit conditions. All in all I was very impressed with Tinydeal. They were very professional, helpful and quick to respond.

Tinydeals is currently offering a discount on the Syma X5C-1 here:

http://www.tinydeal.com/syma-x5c-lcd...-px2ngm0-p-126482.html

and in conjunction with the coupon code; 19offx5c you can get an additional 10 % off.

The Syma X5C-1 was provided by Tinydeal for the purposes of a review! Thanks for reading. :beer:
 
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got one myself found it very easy to fly . only letdown is now ive modded my reciever thus increceing the range its harder to get the direction right so ive painted the front props and guardsbright red makes it a little bit easyer phil.
 
yea its just a case of extending the antena to twice its lenth the quick way is just to solder a piece of speaker wire the same lenth as the antena to the antena wire and push this into the dummy aeiral witch now becomes active. phil
 
Picked up one of these to learn to fly, very impressed with it I have to say! Camera is lacking though, but what do you expect for that price!
 
As I mentioned its a fantastic starter unit. We had a short break in the weather and I was able to fly it outside. It doesnt like wind that much so you have to be careful. Downwind it went like a rocket, but working back upwind was much harder. I found keeping it below the treetops helped and I was able to film a little and do flips. BTW the quad can do flips with the camera and whilst filming - discovered this by accident...I havent updated with the video as you dont actually see much unfortunately. Most of the time I was compensating for the wind and as such the camera was tilted down towards the grass.

Anyway as I mentioned this quad has really got me into flying and I decided to go full out and build a hexacopter. :) All the parts have been ordered and now Im just waiting. :)
 
Id recommend doing some reading. Ive just spent the last 2 weeks doing that and still have a mountain of stuff to get through. I have a 680PRO on its way with a Naza V2 GPS, Afro ESC's 30 A, 6 x T3508-20 motors, and many, many other parts. Ecalc will give you the info you need on motor selection once weight, props, battery capacity etc are known.
 
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Funny enough the X4 was my first quad and the X5C was my second, both are really great though.
 
Hi guys sorry for the long delay. Just a quick update on my hexacopter progress to date.

This was my first build. :)

Below are the specs on the copter and a quick video of it in action.

Specs:

Tarot 680PRO
DJI Naza V2 GPS
6 x Tiger motor MN3508-20 (580kv)
6 x Afro ESC 30 A
6 x 1365 Carbon Fiber Propellers
Frsky D8R-XP
Frsky FSH01 Hub
Frsky GPS sensor V2 (modified for non-S.Port system)
Frsky battery voltage indicator
DJI Zenmuse H3-3D (3 axis gimbal)
Gopro 4 silver
2 x Turnigy nano 5000 mAh 4 S, 35-70 C

Transmitter 9XR Pro mode 2
ERSky 9XR firmware
Hobbyking LiFe transmitter pack 1500 mAh 3S
Frsky DJT

Weight: 3.2 kg
Extra payload ca. 4.2 kg

Hexacopter Maiden flight

Ecalc looks to be a little conservative on the runtime. The first flight was just over 20 mins and the batteries still had a little juice (15.2 V) ;).

On the first flight I managed to test Safemode ie copter returns automatically to point of take off and flew in GPS and ATTI modes. Wind was around 5 -10 kts. I will post a more informative thread on the build, with pics and better video a little later. :)
 

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