New school "toy"hybrid build

Mike H.

Toy Quad Builder
What do you get when you combine an aggressively programmed toy fcb, with super light weight, gobs of power and,efficiency?..Stay tuned to find out. :)
Mike H., Oct 4, 2015


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Mike H., Oct 4, 2015


I guess its time to get the ball rolling on this one..I am however still waiting for the quad to arrive as a donor for the board and motors as well as the props.

Ive been talking to someone about a used frame and, they have what im looking for...Im just waiting to here back from them to send payment and have it shipped my way.

The frame is a PicnicQuads Efficiency X100 carbon fiber/birchwood core frame that will measure 100mm long with the motor holders installed and will be coming with the PicnicQuads 7mm protected motor holders.

Weight for the frame alone is advertised at 2.55g and, the protected motor holders at .26g each..So, a total of 3.59g for the frame assembly.

The donor quad for this project will be a Hubsan X4 H107L which is the version 2 of the original and has many improvements from the factory including, an upgraded FCB and, added lights as well as a much improved flight range of 100m from its original 30m distance.

The hubsan X4 is not a very light quad at close to 40g but, the performance however is very good for its weigh...The x4 FCB is among one of the better quality boards for "toy" quads.

The Hubsan 7x20mm motors have been tested as some of the best 7mm brushed motors out there and, should prove very reliable and very sporty with the considerable weight loss in mind.

The x4 props measuring at 55mm length are one of, if not the most efficient props made for micros and ,provide ample lift while drawing as little amperage from the motors as possible, making them a wonderful choice for longer flight times and performance, combined.

So now to just wait untill everything arrives to get started on this fun project.
Mike H., Oct 4, 2015


Quick update...frame and motor holders purchased.:cool:
Mike H., Oct 18, at 11:59 PM



I decided to recheck the tracking number from banggood and it said it was delivered already..i figured a few more days but just got back from rushing to the post office to see i had a key to open a larger Po box to get it.:D

So here's the hubsan X4 H107L:)
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Curiosity got me immediately to find the weight and my first thoughts of near 40g may have been the model with a camera or fpv...So without a camera such as mine, it weighs in at 35.3g as delivered with battery installed...still heavy but not too bad.
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Now to wait for the frame which will be shipped monday.
Mike H., Oct 19, at 12:55 PM



It seems things you want so badly never get to you fast enough:(...Hopefully in a few more days ill have the frame and motor holders to get this going...The parts are coming from Maryland and tracking has showed it leaving from there today...Once anything hits Charleston, WV i know the next stop is the Po box in my little small town.:rolleyes:
Mike H., Oct 21, at 4:50 PM


Well ,ask and you shall receive...Unless your asking your wife or girlfriend that iso_O

I just got back from the post office a while ago to find the frame and motor holders as well as another set of motor holders as a surprise...Dear lord that frame is light as are the motor holders.

I will cut through alot of BS and get right down to the nitty gritty here.

To avoid cutting wires and re soldering, i just hacked up the frame (which was busted anyways) to remove all the electronics as one whole unit.

I will let some pics do the talking...Here is the electronics removed from the hubsan body/frame assembly in one piece. ( NO SOLDERING!!!!:p) And whats left of the hubsan body/frame:confused:
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I took a weight of what all pieces i could find that didnt go flying during the cutting process and its a heavy set up...if i could find all the pieces it would show heavier but not by much. Maybe few tenths of a gram.
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More to come shortly.
Mike H., Oct 22, at 2:01 PM


On to the good stuff...The frame is very nice looking and super light..Picnic advertises it at 2.55g and my scale not being as precision showed 2.5g so i would say the advertised weight is spot on.
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I received 2 types of motor holders..One is known as a "protected motor holder which is tall and surrounds the motor for protection..Unfortunately i wont be able to use them unless i want to lengthen the motor wire, which i dont...A longer amount of wire is used up when sliding the motor down into the holder making them not quite long enough and putting alot of tension on them..so, im needing to use the shorter holders (which have stoppers at the bottom) to allow less wire used up to be fit properly.
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Mike H., Oct 22, at 2:47 PM


So this is what she looks like semi mocked up.
..ill get a final weight and more pics once all finished and compare it to the stock 35.3g of the hubsan with stock battery.
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Mike H., Oct 22, at 10:50 PM
 
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I used wire ties for now but i plan to use rubber bands to hold the wires on the arms..I just need to insulate the board from the carbon fiber and im going to use a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser foam pad (cut to size) to help eliminate any vibrations as well.
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So, how much does it weigh compared to the stock hubsan? 29.7g for a difference of 5.6g less weight.:rolleyes:
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I may shorten the led wires and battery leads as they are way too long and are adding weight..Im sure i could knock another gram or so off the weight.
 
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Well some bad news really...One of the motors werent seated all the way down in the holder and while i was pressing down fairly hard to seat the prop, the back of the motor cap pushed out..I tried to straighten the tabs so i could get the cap back in and only warped the case so, now i have a bad motor..I got it fit back on but the rotor doesnt spin as free as the others....Also, i went to pull another motor out of its holder to make a wire adjustment and ,apparently when i pushed it in the first time a sharp edge cut the wires in two so, it wouldnt have worked anyway.

Sigh...before i could even fly it i have 2 motors not working that were perfectly fine before hand...Now i need new motors before i can even test fly it.

This one is on hold till further notice.:mad::(
 
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I used wire ties for now but i plan to use rubber bands to hold the wires on the arms..I just need to insulate the board from the carbon fiber and im going to use a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser foam pad (cut to size) to help eliminate any vibrations as well.
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So, how much does it weigh compared to the stock hubsan? 29.7g for a difference of 5.6g less weight.:rolleyes:
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I may shorten the led wires and battery leads as they are way too long and are adding weight..Im sure i could knock another gram or so off the weight.

So does that mean you will be using a Mr."Clean Flight" control board? Sorry. Sometimes I just can't help myself:rolleyes:
 
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Well some bad news really...One of the motors werent seated all the way down in the holder and while i was pressing down fairly hard to seat the prop, the back of the motor cap pushed out..I tried to straighten the tabs so i could get the cap back in and only warped the case so, now i have a bad motor..I got it fit back on but the rotor doesnt spin as free as the others....Also, i went to pull another motor out of its holder to make a wire adjustment and ,apparently when i pushed it in the first time a sharp edge cut the wires in two so, it wouldnt have worked anyway.

Sigh...before i could even fly it i have 2 motors not working that were perfectly fine before hand...Now i need new motors before i can even test fly it.

This one is on hold till further notice.:mad::(
That is bad haha, though this is just a chance to get some bigger coreless motors hahaha Also I must not have posted, but I merged your post.
 
Well some bad news really...One of the motors werent seated all the way down in the holder and while i was pressing down fairly hard to seat the prop, the back of the motor cap pushed out..I tried to straighten the tabs so i could get the cap back in and only warped the case so, now i have a bad motor..I got it fit back on but the rotor doesnt spin as free as the others....Also, i went to pull another motor out of its holder to make a wire adjustment and ,apparently when i pushed it in the first time a sharp edge cut the wires in two so, it wouldnt have worked anyway.

Sigh...before i could even fly it i have 2 motors not working that were perfectly fine before hand...Now i need new motors before i can even test fly it.

This one is on hold till further notice.:mad::(

Sorry to hear about the motors but with all the toy quads you have can't you find a set of motors that would work?
 
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That is bad haha, though this is just a chance to get some bigger coreless motors hahaha Also I must not have posted, but I merged your post.

I'm getting this "Big Brother' vibe....... I'm gonna go cling to my bible and clean my guns.....Heeheeheeeee
 
So does that mean you will be using a Mr."Clean Flight" control board? Sorry. Sometimes I just can't help myself:rolleyes:

Nope..Mr Hubsan still gets the spot..haha.
Sorry to hear about the motors but with all the toy quads you have can't you find a set of motors that would work?

Ive only got 3 quads (soon 4) and, no spare anything just yet...I could rob my first project but,dont really want to do that.
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That is bad haha, though this is just a chance to get some bigger coreless motors hahaha Also I must not have posted, but I merged your post.

Well, 7mm motors was the plan here to keep weight down but still have good power and decent flight times...8.5mm would add alot of weight plus a much larger battery needed to get the same flight times..Sort of becomes a negative for this build.

I'll just have to get 4 new hubsan motors and, will have 2 as spares.

I could make this project the jjrc board set up and move the hubsan board to the old school project with the 4 UDI motors...Not sure what im gonna do..lol.
 
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