New build first timer need some help..

[vassilis]

hey guys!
im a newbie to quads, but experienced in nitro rc.
i have built my new quad, a simple kit, hobby people helis f450 x4 set up, i have connected it up to a basic 6ch transmitter.
i have read the instructions countless times and watched countless youtube videos, calibrated the escs, fc, remote as per the manual, youtube and common sense!
im still not getting any logical response from the quad..
.. basically 1 whole day 8 hrs attempting a take off,
the basic problem first off, flipping, here i realised esc 3 & 2 prop was wrong, i corrected this, but the flipping continued, at this stage i tried reversing the controls carefully and looking for responses, with no logical conclusion, eg il hold a low throttle, alot of the time one of the motors wont spin up until pre takeoff throttle, whilest on low throttle i test my controls, dive climb pan L R etc to see what motors react... so i would assume, to dip forward back motors would speed up and front slow down, push left i would assume right motors speed up left slow down,
im getting all sorts of crazy results, most of all after a flip it seems to barely react like there is some problem with the fc ??
im sure all escs are calibrated fc and reciever too.. i cant understand why sometimes the escs and motors aren't responding and why is seems all the controls are doing other things but half correct at the same time???
i have attached some basic pics of the quad an d wiring atm, i have also tried a whole bunch of combos for the wiring from transmitter to fc and esc, however i just am new back into rc's and just need ALOT OF refreshing im sure its set up/ calibration, but i just get the feeling the fc is messed up !!
with my current set up could i buy a dji naza v2 and swap out my fc ?? just like that, at least i would eliminate the cheap hp super multi rotor controller?
is there something im not calibrating or checking ?? or any clear novice errors im doing, i have been reading alot on new builds and flipping questions but just feel a bit all over the place !!!
help !!! lol
the photos are to big to upload, i will upload some tomorrow !!

 

[holtneil]

Hi mate I need some more info like FCB? if you tilt forward front motors speed up back motors slow as the quad will always want to be level . This is what the FCB main job
Ok what we need to do is start right at the beginning and do this one step at a time , swapping out the FCB is the last thing its a set up problem I am sure of the way you say it is flipping

 

[vassilis]

hey thanks for your reply, people must be fed up of these newbie problems, thanks alot i appreciate your time !!

so my fcb is a hobby people super multi rotor flight controller.

maybe its set up as the wrong type +4 insted of x4 but the instructions are so basic.. really only gives you a vague idea..

when i switch on the fc flashes white blue then solid green..

i have now disconnected all escs from the power distribution board, tried calibrating but not really calibrating correctly, ie after calibration they all still start up at different throttle positions ??

i have left escs disconnected from the power dist board atm

i have connected the power distribution board signal wires to the relative ecs imputs on the fc, ie esc1 to esc1, i assume that is the correct way,
my instructions say to safely tuck these wires away wtf ????

also a.e.r and im unsure as how to connect but have correctly according to the diagram, oj-aeleron red-elev brown-rud?

all sig,neg, pos wires are the correct way..


i also hope its wires or settings,

 

[vassilis]

with regards to a tilt test it has never reacted correctly, alot of times the wrong motors reacting .. also aer contols all motors reacting wrong....
im now pretty sure the fc mode dip switches are correct as i tried all possibilitys and it would only bind and have controls on the original settings.

 

[holtneil]

Hi so what FCB do you have

 

[vassilis]

fcb flight controller ?? hobby people super multi rotor controller...

 

[holtneil]

Hi so if its an X quad dip switch one is back dip switch 2 is forward is that right

 

[vassilis]

iv tried all dip settings!! either way im annoyed and sure this fc is just crap, so i went and got a naza m lite, il post up tomorrow and let you know how im getting on i dont care if it was that fc i just want to get into the air! !

 

[vassilis]

i cant do anymore today my missis needs some attention now lol

 

[holtneil]

Hi There are some really good ones the naza need a good transmitter or the real DJI transmitter to get a really good set up

 

[vassilis]

thanks for the link ! i will look ! i do plan to get a specktrum unit, but im leaving usa and headding to greece and rushed to do get it atm !! and my luggages are full !!

 

[vassilis]

a little update, i have sucessfully installed and calibrated my naza m lite easily, absolutely love the ease and fuctionality with the pc app, did a little test without rotors then with, indoors everything reacted correctly, i didnt attemt take off however am very confident headding out in the morning, for a test run and flight settings..
checked checked and triple checked everything looking forward to it appologies for no pics still im very busy and had no time to compress yet..

 

[holtneil]

Hi Vassilis, thats really great news , I love the Naza system its so worth the money , enjoy the test flight
As for pics the easier way to do it is open pic with paint resize ,so reduce by 50% and it should up load if not reduce again I had to with any pics I post here