250 build need guidance please.

[rix]

Hi all.
Im ricky and im a alchaholic and drug addict.

lolz
Ok.
Im buiding a 250 im come back with what I got already and some ideas on what im after.

Im not new to rc. I lost all my gear before ect ect but 1/8 nitro was my thing! So im not new new and wont fall for the money traps.

OK
Transmitter
For starters I would like a ps or xbox controller as radio transmitter and upgrade it what ever with a smart phone for fpv. Im thinking of using l1 and r1 ect for instant spin function. toll left roll right and r2 r4 flip forward backwards. Ive not put to much thought into it tbh. Itws were i want to be at eventually.

Motors.
I got 2 on way. 2008 2300k kind of size il add pics later but obviously I need esc and really interested in diy 4 in 1 esc tbh. I recon a 4 in 1 usb charger can be modded. I can go on all day but I will come back.

Control FC
Im after return home and fail safe hover but for moment want to just get in the air and practice.
Looking at arduino, naze32, kk ect but im not sure about any. Id like to be able to calibrate threw that google chrome app.
Im in no rush for gps but I want the board to be able to run it. tbh Im thinking build my own.
I could do with the exact things I need for the arduino flight controller build or some 1 post exactly what needed to build a basic flight control cheap.

Hmm
Ive ordered a frame il show you soon but I may just build 2 or 3 at once and get parts cheaper.

Wheres best price for escs? like i say im thinking build a reliable 4in1 or if they cheap il just buy ready but the single escs seem expensive. I dont know if theres much difference between cheap and expensive ones and if so surely chips can be upgraded in 2 secs.

Hmm
Thats about it guys. so many ideas.

ps which of them flight controllers should I get and what else do i need just to get me flying. Im order these asap but escs id like to doscuss infact im wait for advice on aduino but 6quid ready to go seems right for me right now.
esc advice aswell shall I just get x4 40amp single for 12m or mr rc 30A. so many options.
Ah theres them motors ive uploaded. What ither 2 shall I go for and what escs?
whats would i need for a playstation control pad to control this? cant i use bluetooth for all this? seems all long.


okokok im go away but reply as im boggling my mind trying to work things out.
what would you do from here? tbh im order another frame and buy everything in 2s. pcb, arduino uno " needs a serious chat about this with some 1 who knows." ive tried reading it all and understand the problem is so many different boards. but also im up for making escs as they seem robbery and flimsy. the metal 4 in 1s look good but they fk up they all fk up. spose I could just replace what ever but if the board cracks its done.

After durability and reliability too.

Thanks in advance.

 

[rix]

Im watching old 9ch radios now. could i rip apart and put in ps3 and have 9 active channels threw the pad or even more?

 

[rix]

what you say to this? could I add a lcd to it? what else this need?

Obviously if i can get more or better for lesser or a lil more im interested.

Can i add gps later? can this do return home and let me programme flip buttons?

 

[RENOV8R]

You don't do "flip buttons". It's just a manouvre done with stick control. The rest is way over my head........

 

[mozquito1]

Suppose you will be programming it to go get your pizza aswell as hanging the washing out on the way. Start simple.
This took me 5hrs still a few bits to do. Another hour she will be flying.

 

[rix]

fkn hell i wrote a book lol.
leme read threw your replies as Im just waiting for parts now.
Il tell you what ive got so far.

5x 30A redbrick esc
4x mt2204
4x parrot ar2.0 FC
1x apm2.6
1x6ch radio but think guy messing as won cheap. Its old old though so planned a diy.
210mm frame
250mm frame
I need to think and ask questions in a managable way.

So right now I need a receiver prefferably a mini diy.

I need to know if I can flash parrot ar2.0 and if so to which open source.

If I need to have the utrasonic sensor connected to fly it.

Hmm what else. I got lots of questions diy wise but ive gone ahead and got what I have for as cheap as poss. think ive spent 30 quid so far. yup I aint new to rc or broke like people automaticly pressume.
I just want to learn and build a solid quad cheaper and better then the full priced version. this is a normal thing in my days of rc anyway as youl buy your 500bucks rtf and fk it up and replace everything. Going diy we dont replace and yea it may be a lil expensiver then ATF but it can be cheaper its all on the quality and materials you want.

Right now I want to finish these and learn to fly but my main aim and thoughts are for a diy rotar type frame is it walkera furious? that oind of look. I think it will handle way better and inly found 1 youtube video and it does exactly what i thiught, perfect for drag racing and wind straight rotate props forwards and you gone.
Id like to do that type of frame with diy stm32 with all gps options so I can use the controller freely on anyquad.
Basicly have my drones ready and just plug fc and go.

On top of that Id like to put together a all in 1 controller, controler,escs and receiver all in 1.

If any of you guys are super techy, like you know your shyt please pm me as I think ive found a cheaper and better esc solution.

See i thiught fk it buy a cheap drone and use the hoard out of that, as long as its got some kind of safety like 1 touch return we good but I aint sure on what will and wont work.

to me it looks as if the controller is simply a servo which ive seen wicked 16ch servos that are tiny for cheap.
escs look like mosfet controlled voltage regulators and receivers simply a transceiver module.
Obviously its not as easy as that but some 1 must know and done this already.

The prices in this game are way out of hand too. you realise its not alot of tech for your money.

In the 1st place I simply wanted to use a smart phone as FC and my phone to control but I cant get my head around things to easy like this for example.

I read people suggest ppm to reduce wires?
So why cant 4 motors be run from 1 wire then?
Ive looked into pwm and ppm and yes theres a bunch of different ways and partsbut I cant get my head around why we using 1 wire to each esc when we could have 1 control all.

I recon they just milking pwm technology while they can and soon escs will be gone.
Even escs 10-50 each? the best fets on the market are 10 for a pound.

Hmm think thats were im at anyway and from my research
gyro latest 6500 module
borametric 280 module
Nano pro 32bit or even a older 8bit or any new ish arm cortex.

Cant see how these single race boards ect are valued at 40 to 50 when they literaly use less then 5 bucks worth of parts. even the list Ive just given you can huy in 2pcs each item and get 2 controllers for a 5 note.

Ok aha. I can go on. ive got addicted to this real quick and not even flew yet.

Glad I didnt listen to people on forums ect as id be screwing with a 500quid peace of crap right now.

 

[rix]

finaly I got guys on my page yay.
thanks guys every were else been nightmare.

yea I looked at the kk hoard but got the apm2.6 for gps. didnt realise gps was going to cost the same lol. got it for 9quid and sellers upped price to 30.
from my understanding there just arduino uno boards in a box £2.75 EACH
lol
yea I dont some looking and its 8bit to. dont ask me why ut im going 32bit or even 64bit if possible as tech is only going to get better.

pics were im at now. ffs i keep writing like a book aha.
really into this and cant wait to meet up and fly but like it hard to even find any 1 local too.
Im up by Hull and im from Birmingham and know no 1.

 

[rix]

Suppose you will be programming it to go get your pizza aswell as hanging the washing out on the way. Start simple.
This took me 5hrsView attachment 1964 View attachment 1965 still a few bits to do. Another hour she will be flying.

Been trying so hard to keep it simple.
yup told mrs we dont goto go shop no more and I can follow her every were aha just needs machine gun and we good aha.

Nice I put pic mine up how far in I am. Im on waiting game. now.

just need batts and a receiver and im good.
Any of you huild diy3s and 4s? any advice on which 1s are good enough?

Whats minimum size motors for a 300mm size frame like robocat or the tarot tl300 is it?
Yea Ehn I ordered this frame guy mugged me off as it was choice from 300mm to 380 then I said can I get a 350 and he goes no so i explained why has he even put pick size then with a 280 or 300 will do but 330 would be nice.
Got 210 4days later, was happy on speed but this is not what I wanted.
Ordered 250 frame that still aint come either.

Yea some 300 size motor recomendations please. I need to keep control on this so think robocat and that tartot and im done with frames.

Wouldnt mind some made up if any 1 has access to carbon fibre and willing to do me a good deal on a bunch. same as 3d parts.
When funds allow may just buy diy reprap for all this and try help every 1 out not mug you all off like every other fkr seems to think they can do.

yea I seen them bluetooth controllers like the parrot bepop. fit screen in middle. 20 quid, not bad but ive seen guys making wicked remoted with ps3 pads ect.
Il get that 8 or 9 channel frsky off ebay with receiver for 30 if have to but really want to build my own with tft screen ect.

Think im stick to this forum. none of yiu haave tried take advantage like others. Even been banned from many for simply suggesting diy flightcontrollers

 

[mozquito1]

fkn hell i wrote a book lol.
leme read threw your replies as Im just waiting for parts now.
Il tell you what ive got so far.

5x 30A redbrick esc
4x mt2204
4x parrot ar2.0 FC
1x apm2.6
1x6ch radio but think guy messing as won cheap. Its old old though so planned a diy.
210mm frame
250mm frame
I need to think and ask questions in a managable way.

So right now I need a receiver prefferably a mini diy.

I need to know if I can flash parrot ar2.0 and if so to which open source.

If I need to have the utrasonic sensor connected to fly it.

Hmm what else. I got lots of questions diy wise but ive gone ahead and got what I have for as cheap as poss. think ive spent 30 quid so far. yup I aint new to rc or broke like people automaticly pressume.
I just want to learn and build a solid quad cheaper and better then the full priced version. this is a normal thing in my days of rc anyway as youl buy your 500bucks rtf and fk it up and replace everything. Going diy we dont replace and yea it may be a lil expensiver then ATF but it can be cheaper its all on the quality and materials you want.

Right now I want to finish these and learn to fly but my main aim and thoughts are for a diy rotar type frame is it walkera furious? that oind of look. I think it will handle way better and inly found 1 youtube video and it does exactly what i thiught, perfect for drag racing and wind straight rotate props forwards and you gone.
Id like to do that type of frame with diy stm32 with all gps options so I can use the controller freely on anyquad.
Basicly have my drones ready and just plug fc and go.

On top of that Id like to put together a all in 1 controller, controler,escs and receiver all in 1.

If any of you guys are super techy, like you know your shyt please pm me as I think ive found a cheaper and better esc solution.

See i thiught fk it buy a cheap drone and use the hoard out of that, as long as its got some kind of safety like 1 touch return we good but I aint sure on what will and wont work.

to me it looks as if the controller is simply a servo which ive seen wicked 16ch servos that are tiny for cheap.
escs look like mosfet controlled voltage regulators and receivers simply a transceiver module.
Obviously its not as easy as that but some 1 must know and done this already.

The prices in this game are way out of hand too. you realise its not alot of tech for your money.

In the 1st place I simply wanted to use a smart phone as FC and my phone to control but I cant get my head around things to easy like this for example.

I read people suggest ppm to reduce wires?
So why cant 4 motors be run from 1 wire then?
Ive looked into pwm and ppm and yes theres a bunch of different ways and partsbut I cant get my head around why we using 1 wire to each esc when we could have 1 control all.

I recon they just milking pwm technology while they can and soon escs will be gone.
Even escs 10-50 each? the best fets on the market are 10 for a pound.

Hmm think thats were im at anyway and from my research
gyro latest 6500 module
borametric 280 module
Nano pro 32bit or even a older 8bit or any new ish arm cortex.

Cant see how these single race boards ect are valued at 40 to 50 when they literaly use less then 5 bucks worth of parts. even the list Ive just given you can huy in 2pcs each item and get 2 controllers for a 5 note.

Ok aha. I can go on. ive got addicted to this real quick and not even flew yet.

Glad I didnt listen to people on forums ect as id be screwing with a 500quid peace of crap right now.

OK err wtf was all that about. You sound like doc emmett Brown, all was missing was the 2.21 jigga watts. So you go mess with your $30 quad, then comeback with something sensible. ROFL still.

 

[RENOV8R]

OK err wtf was all that about. You sound like doc emmett Brown, all was missing was the 2.21 jigga watts. So you go mess with your $30 quad, then comeback with something sensible. ROFL still.

Naw, I think it's Amy Winehouse brought back from the dead