Glo
Well-Known Member
You missed a few. No charger, or battery or camera.
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that. Personally I wouldn't worry about the cam or charger as they both are horrible.
SYMA x8g
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Oh wow, I didn't even notice that. Personally I wouldn't worry about the cam or charger as they both are horrible.
Glo
Well-Known Member
Mine was taking 6-8 hours to charge and was over charging the cells. I got a b6 and that charges it in about an hour.
Badger74
Member
Hey guys
Well I know I'm gonna sound like a total noob asking this, but here goes. I have balanced all my props and my X8G was working great until I thought I was configuring me after I balanced then by putting both joy sticks in the 7:00 position... obviously the WRONG decision! Lol. Is there a way I can adjust my trim add my quad keeps drifting backwards. I know there is a trim for all other directions but what about forward,backward-- it seems to only activate the camera function. Please exclude my stupidity... I would really appreciate your feedback
Dave
Well I know I'm gonna sound like a total noob asking this, but here goes. I have balanced all my props and my X8G was working great until I thought I was configuring me after I balanced then by putting both joy sticks in the 7:00 position... obviously the WRONG decision! Lol. Is there a way I can adjust my trim add my quad keeps drifting backwards. I know there is a trim for all other directions but what about forward,backward-- it seems to only activate the camera function. Please exclude my stupidity... I would really appreciate your feedback
Dave
Jackson
USA member at large
What Mode are you in? It will say in the LCD. Note what Syma shows as Mode 1 is actually Mode 2 (throttle on left).
If yours says Mode 1, to correct for 'drifting backwards' you need to push the trimmer forward that is by the right stick. You will be adjusting the Pitch. You can also see that happening in the LCD. Before actually flying start by centering all 3, pitch, roll and yaw. Then when flying you can start adjusting.
CaptinUndies
New Member
I am clueless when it comes to GoPros but one of the first things I wanted to do was ditch the camera that comes with it for a standalone camera that isn't sucking the life out of the battery. Would you by chance have a link for a gopro that would work with the X8G?
I may hit you up about some of the mods you have done I just received my X8G today but was already thinking of mods for it since it seems like an easy one to add stuff to weight pending of course
Jackson
USA member at large
It ain't sucking the life out of it by a long shot. Watch Flyin' Ryan's review he said the camera's impact on flight times was hardly noticeable.
Stormrider
Member
Mike, with the X8G, jello is not the issue. The C and W models have a fixed mount that, as you said, can be cushioned very cheaply.The X8G camera mount includes cushioning that cancels out the jello quite well. The object of the powered gimbal is to keep the camera focused at the angle that you want, regardless of the attitude of the quad. As you increase the pitch or roll to fight the wind or whatever, the camera maintains the angle that you set it to, thus providing much better quality video and stills. The Walkera G-2D gimbal, plastic version, is no heavier than the metal version. It's more fragile. But, it's cheaper. You can minimize additional weight by running the gimbal off the X8's battery. Solder a pig-tail to the main power points on the control board, run it out through the battery compartment door (or do like I did and drill a small hole on the connecting side) and hook it up. The gimbal states that it needs 12V to run. But, it does just fine on the 7.4 that the X8 battery provides. Very important- make sure that when you mount your camera in the gimbal, that it is PERFECTLY balanced. The camera should stay in any position you turn it, without flopping the other way. Depending on the camera you use, you may have to turn it upside down, or use counterweights (last option). Now, IF you want a 'steady video' from a gimbal camera, you have to give up the Syma camera and go with either one that has it's own battery or one that is powered through the gimbal. The connecting power cord from the Syma camera to the quad makes using a gimbal impossible.
There IS a difference between the motors of the C or W and the G. The G motors are stronger. I recommend that you don't pay to much attention to what you read from the different vendors. Their goal is to sell motors. And, Syma really doesn't give you enough information to make that distinction. However, having both types of motors, in my hands and in both the C and G models, I can tell you there is. First, you can see that the motor housing is better ventilated. I assume that the stronger motor generates more heat. Next, you can feel more resistance (not friction) as you turn the rotor and it slides past the magnets of the stator. Much stiffer than the motors in the C.
The 'GoPro' style camera that comes with the G is not significantly heavier than the camera with the C. It looks cooler with that style body and has a switch to toggle from 1080p to 720p. But, it's mostly just a fancy shell around a tiny camera. That's about it.
BTW, yes, after a point, it would make more sense to just purchase a hobby grade quad like the Walkera QR X350 Premium or professional like the DJI Inspire. I have a DJI Phantom 3 Professional. There's still a certain amount of enjoyment to be had in seeing what you can do with a 'toy' model like the Syma X8 series, just because you can.
I've had mine since last September now. I'm still finding out new things to do with it. Like, did you know that you can put an 11.1V 1300mAh 20-30C battery in your X8? It more than doubles the power, without harming the circuitry. You just have to make sure you provide plenty of ventilation to the motors (take the covers off), make sure your blades are well balanced and keep things well lubricated, to prevent burning up your motors. You will still only get about 8 minutes of flight time. But, with all that power, you can carry the gimbal and camera as high as you can see and come down safely. Get yourself a little digital timer and set it for 7 minutes.
I have already modified the transmitter antenna. Not necessarily to increase the range. (I already fly it as far as I can see it) But, to help minimize signal loss. I'm going to mod the receiver antenna the same way.
Several modders have used the Phantom extended legs to make room for a gimbal mounted camera. They are taller. But, they are also narrower, making the X8 less stable when landing. I like the way the stock X8 legs spread out under the rotor arms. So, I'm adding this instead: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NR8JCII?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00. I will get the additional height I need, without sacrificing the nice footprint of the stock legs.
I love my Phantom. But, it's a very complicated, very EXPENSIVE machine that I'm still learning about and very apprehensive to take chances with. I love my X8G. It's a great platform for experiments, modifications and pushing the limits with. Stuff I would never do with my Phantom. One day, when I feel I've done all I can do with my G, I'll move on to another 'toy' or 'hobby' grade quad to 'geek out' on. And, I'll have fun doing it. My G will be there, probably reverted back to stock, just because I can.
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Stormrider
Member
The camera mount for the X8G is actually designed to accept the GoPro. No other mods required. But, keep looking at different youtube videos and posts here. You may want to add a gimbal, and bigger battery, eventually. May I suggest: http://www.amazon.com/DBPOWER-Water...-1-spons&keywords=dbpower+action+camera&psc=1
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Stormrider
Member
These are actually OEM replacement motors for the C and W models. They will work in a G. BUT, they're not as strong of a motor that comes in the G. This is the OEM type replacement motor for the G: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014ITZNK0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00. It can also be used in the C and W versions. Notice the additional vents in the motor shell. That's because the more powerful motor requires additional cooling.
Stormrider
Member
Stormrider
Member
Take a look at: http://www.amazon.com/DBPOWER-Water...-1-spons&keywords=dbpower+action+camera&psc=1. A great camera with wifi for a fraction of a GoPro.
Stormrider
Member
I finally invested in a good balance charger and parallel board. I am sooooo haaaaapy that I did. Man! Getting a solid, balanced charge on up to 6 batteries at once, in less than half the time it used to take to charge just one battery! It's worth every penny! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009VCBC2I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00 and http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01539LPS8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00.
Mike H.
Toy Quad Builder
One person on a different forum is pushing this 3s concept but his video proved nothing of more power or long term reliability....The video proved nothing but an idea thats not approved by many...Its not something i would do or recommend to anyone, personally.
Try it if you want but, make sure you have a spare board handy and hopefully the quad doesnt catch fire and burn.
Try it if you want but, make sure you have a spare board handy and hopefully the quad doesnt catch fire and burn.
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Stormrider
Member
I've been conversing with this guy, Christian Porto who has already done this. His video (proof of success) is here:
Stormrider
Member
The motors are different. Go to Amazon and look them up. You can see the difference there. And, if you have them in your hands, you can feel the difference. I'd like to see what kind of hybrid you create.
Stormrider
Member
Can you be a little more detailed on how to do that?
Stormrider
Member
You can also find the same setup on Amazon. Gearbest seems to be out of stock, frequently.
Mike H.
Toy Quad Builder
Power the motors up with say an alkaline battery with 1.5v or even 2 for 3v to make it go quicker....submerge the motor only inside of a glass or plastic bowl of soapy water and run let it run for 5 minutes or so.
You can find videos of this youtube as well.
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Mike H.
Toy Quad Builder
Its an old trick people use in stock class racing using non rebuildale motors...Since altering timing isnt an option to get more power (legally), this is how they are getting an advantage over those who dont do this trick....What you are essentially doing is creating a smoother less abrasive break in for the brushes and commutator...You will have more chips or burn marks from a dry break in left on the brushes that would give you less contact and less power.....Let it dry out or blow it out good...a drop oil or so on the bushings and youre good to go.
Get a cheap 2 cell AA battery holder to give yourself 3 volts to break them in with.
Some change the water after break in period and run it in some clean water for a minute or so to clean it out.. because the break in period will turn your water dark with brush and comm particles.
Ill be doing this to my X8C motors before its even flown..And balancing the props of course.
I wish we could do this with the smaller 7 and 8mm motors but most have no holes in them that would circulate water through it and release the debris.
Get a cheap 2 cell AA battery holder to give yourself 3 volts to break them in with.
Some change the water after break in period and run it in some clean water for a minute or so to clean it out.. because the break in period will turn your water dark with brush and comm particles.
Ill be doing this to my X8C motors before its even flown..And balancing the props of course.
I wish we could do this with the smaller 7 and 8mm motors but most have no holes in them that would circulate water through it and release the debris.
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