Pilots will need to register once, not for every copter.

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I wonder if they will limit it by >2 props is considered a drone, and if this will apply to the commercial craft too.

I do like this idea better than having to register each.
 
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Yeah, if it has to happen, a one time registration will be much easier and it will mean we won't be paying a fee for everything we fly.

If they give a pass to planes and helis, I think the law would be even more pointless though. They can fly a good distance with fpv and are more often way bigger than multirotors.

It would suck that a few "drone" pilots ruined it for the people who have been flying planes and helis forever without being bothered, but a lot of ama guys tag their member number on their stuff already anyway.
 
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Is this just for Drones/ UAV's or with model aircraft too ?
Hopefully it means getting a flight operators license would be much easier, right now there is no formal paper work and third party agency's want about $1000 to file.
 
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I'd have to assume that it's anything you fly that's not on a string. I doubt it will make getting the license easier since they plan to have this in place by the end of the year, and therefore, it will likely be just thrown together.
 
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GJH105775 said:
If they try to do registration of people to fly rather than aircraft that can fly they may get into some really sticky legal situations.
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I wonder what info they'll be looking for. They're saying you'd get an ID number to tape to your frame - which is a lot better than what it could have been (or still might be), but I doubt the government can actually put something together by the end of the year that will actually keep my personal info secure. If it's name/address/phone number, I guess it's no big deal, but we'll see.
 
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I wonder what info they'll be looking for. They're saying you'd get an ID number to tape to your frame - which is a lot better than what it could have been (or still might be), but I doubt the government can actually put something together by the end of the year that will actually keep my personal info secure. If it's name/address/phone number, I guess it's no big deal, but we'll see.
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Yeah, many people put their name and phone number on their quads as it is. As inefficient they are at getting things done I would not be surprised if it took them until June or better hahaha.
 
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Database server, encrypted database with a few columns, open ports, web server with ssl, a simple data entry page with anti-hacking algorithms, done in less than a day if all work is partitioned out, but wait, this is government... next June sounds about right lol
 
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ringolong said:
Database server, encrypted database with a few columns, open ports, web server with ssl, a simple data entry page with anti-hacking algorithms, done in less than a day if all work is partitioned out, but wait, this is government... next June sounds about right lol
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Hahaha, yeah and they'll over pay for something that could be don much cheaper and a lot simpler hahaha.
 
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ringolong said:
Database server, encrypted database with a few columns, open ports, web server with ssl, a simple data entry page with anti-hacking algorithms, done in less than a day if all work is partitioned out, but wait, this is government... next June sounds about right lol
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Yeah... I've worked for the government (state level) and would sit in meetings with developers discussing timelines for the most simplest of web apps (basically forms and a one-table database). They would be talking months and months for their teams to do stuff that someone from Odesk would have done in 2 days for $100 - with much better code and it would be way more secure. And the worse part is that they would never release their apps on time.

There's also the other issue, which is how they host it and if the physical, logical, and application architecture can stand up to the demand this tool will certainly have in the beginning as everyone tries to register.

Hopefully they surprise us and do it right though =)
 
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mm said:
There's also the other issue, which is how they host it and if the physical, logical, and application architecture can stand up to the demand this tool will certainly have in the beginning as everyone tries to register.
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We shall see about this one. I bet they will end up using amazon or microsoft to host.
 
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It could still be an issue. When I worked for government, we used both AWS and Microsoft's "government cloud" offering, which is their Azure environment but the staff who manages the government portion gets background checks basically. Anyway, the people from our end and the contractors that were hired didn't know what they were doing and all of the automatic scaling and ability to handle varying loads and spikes in traffic was completely useless to us. We had so many issues when our traffic would spike. The government will always find a way to mess everything up. Even if they have really talented people, projects will always be tainted by other staff and managers who have no technical skills and just get ahead because they're politically savvy, have dirt on someone, or claim that they're being treated unfair until they get promoted.

I'm not being bitter either. I'm actually toning down how bad it really is =)

#nofaith
 
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It could still be an issue. When I worked for government, we used both AWS and Microsoft's "government cloud" offering, which is their Azure environment but the staff who manages the government portion gets background checks basically. Anyway, the people from our end and the contractors that were hired didn't know what they were doing and all of the automatic scaling and ability to handle varying loads and spikes in traffic was completely useless to us. We had so many issues when our traffic would spike. The government will always find a way to mess everything up. Even if they have really talented people, projects will always be tainted by other staff and managers who have no technical skills and just get ahead because they're politically savvy, have dirt on someone, or claim that they're being treated unfair until they get promoted.

I'm not being bitter either. I'm actually toning down how bad it really is =)

#nofaith
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Haha, a former general contractor I know says pretty much the same thing about government projects he used to do.
 
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I am federally employed so I know how bad, and slow it is in a lot of cases. Process controls the speed, and there is a lot of it.

I think they will end up contracting this out to another company since they need it in production so quickly. It would not make it through all of the red tape and be available to the public if it was completed in-house.
 
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ringolong said:
I am federally employed so I know how bad, and slow it is in a lot of cases. Process controls the speed, and there is a lot of it.

I think they will end up contracting this out to another company since they need it in production so quickly. It would not make it through all of the red tape and be available to the public if it was completed in-house.
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As long as I can quickly and easily register without any technical problems and they don't let my personal info get compromised, I'll be happy =)
 
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