First build, I need help please

Discussion in 'First Build' started by Queja, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. Queja

    Queja New Member

    Hello everyone. So I tried to build my first quadcopter based on the Peon 230 frame (I'm totally new to this hobby), I got everything soldered, I set up my fc with Betaflight, etc. Then I tried to make it fly, but I encountered a problem. When I raise the throttle on my controller, the third motor have trouble to turn, so the entire quadcopter just tilt and crash. I don't know how to fix that and I really need your help

    Here's my partslist :
    FC : Betaflight F3 AIO board
    Motors : Racerstar BR1806 2280 KV brushless
    ESCs : BLHA1006 Thrust 20A BlHeli Opto ESC
    Rx : FS-IA6B
    Tx : FS-I6
    Battery : 1500 mAh 70C 4C li-po battery
    Props : GRPRC 5040 5 inch 3 Blade Prop

    I'm using the sbus protocol
    I included some pics of the fc and the third motor esc (the 3 wires are normally insulated but I took the insulation off for the pic)

    Thanks for reading and I hope you'll be able to help me :)

    fc pic.jpg P_20180211_165612.jpg
  2. RENOV8R

    RENOV8R Well-Known Member

    First I'd try resoldering the M3 signal wire where it's soldered onto the FC, looks a little iffy. Also, have you calibrated your ESCs?
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  3. mozquito1

    mozquito1 Well-Known Member

    The ground wire looks worse. Do both.
    Flysky uses pwm, ppm & ibus.
    Not sbus.
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2018
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  4. mozquito1

    mozquito1 Well-Known Member

    Why did you not heatshrink the 3 motor wires, 2nd picture. If they touch it will mess it up.
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  5. mozquito1

    mozquito1 Well-Known Member

    I can't see below the fcb, but it's not a good idea to use metal screws in the fcb.
    Is the pdb, fcb adequately soft mounted so you don't short anything.
  6. mozquito1

    mozquito1 Well-Known Member

    Is that a 3d printed frame, o_O
  7. Queja

    Queja New Member

    Hello, I've resoldered the 2 wires (M3 and ground), calibrated my ESCs and used nylon screws on the fcb instead of metal screws.
    I also put the insulation back on the motor wires, but nothing changed, the 3rd motor is still having trouble to turn :(
    Yes I 3d printed my frame because I have access to a 3d printer :D
    Thanks for your help
  8. Gyro Doctor

    Gyro Doctor Electronics Tech for over 45 years

    With all props off, double check all your settings then power test each motor individually.
    Also make sure you don't have a mounting screw protruding too far into the motor which could bind it up,
    removing the motor's screws that's in question and trying it again will tell that.

    If everything else seems ok then swap that motor with another location. If the problem stays with the motor then replace it.
    If the problem stays on that arm with a different motor now there then you've got either a bad ESC for that location or wiring
    problems for that location. ;)
  9. mozquito1

    mozquito1 Well-Known Member

    :cool:... Does the bell of the motor turn freely by hand. Magnets will attract thing off the bench. Which may get stuck. Are all the setting the same on each esc in blheli configuration.
  10. Jackson

    Jackson USA member at large

    FWIW the latest FS-i6X does SBUS, even with the older IBus RXs.
  11. Queja

    Queja New Member

    Hey everyone sorry for my late reply
    I think I checked everything that could be wrong : the mounting screws are not protruding, the motor bell turn freely and the ESC's settings are all the same.
    So after checking these things I swapped the faulty motor with another one and the problem stayed on that arm. I thought it was a bad ESC so I changed all 4 of them. Sadly, the problem remains. This project might be cursed :(
    Thanks a lot for your help guys, but I think I'm too much of a newbie for this.
  12. Jackson

    Jackson USA member at large

    The motor wasn't faulty it seems. Rather than just getting new motors you should have installed the faulty one onto another arm.
    Once again same thing,

    Basically you were treating symptoms as causes.
    Now that appears to be the actual cause of your woes. You could now start your troubleshooting with a multimeter.
  13. Queja

    Queja New Member

    I may have mispoken. I meant I swapped the motor that seemed faulty with another one from the quadcopter. The "faulty" motor worked, and the other one had trouble to turn (still on the 3rd arm).

    Okay I'm going to do that, but what if I don't find anything weird ?

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