Eachine Novice 3 VS Eachine Tyro79s

[cmalo]

Hi guys,

Im new to FPV flying and looking for a nice starter drone just to learn flying and have some fun.

I watched some videos and reviews about some drones and found the following are good starter drones:

Eachine Novice 3
Emax tinyhawk 2.5 inch freestyle

But now i also came across the Eachine Tyro 79s.

To be as a beginner it looks about the same as the Eachine Novice 3 (about the same size, specs and same price range)

The tyro 79s is available in a RTF package aswell.

Can someone with more experience tell me which of these would be better as a first drone and why ?

I found the tyro 79s Here:

https://nl-m.banggood.com/Eachine-T...ds=search&act_poa=POA7144952&cur_warehouse=CN

 

[wafflejock]

Hiya,

These seem like really good options, of the three I'd still lean towards the tinyhawk (I do have one so some bias there I guess). Reason would go with that is would also get a transmitter that can last and be used across any future quads too if you decide to expand on things and that will work well for simulators (kind of depends on how much you expect to continue on with this as hobby or professional use, if that's worth doing). Also if okay with bit of sunk cost on controller or FPV goggles you might not use or might just give to spectators in the future or something then not a big deal just buy the full package but if looking for components you'll use/upgrade over time then would buy the quad standalone.

Tyro 79s looks solid, only issue I guess is banggood generally means slow shipping times and getting replacement "original" parts may take a while if can't find them locally where you are (can usually make due with replacing components but easier if have thing that match up to original parts if ever have to replace stuff).

The eachine kit I'd shy away from. Eachine is generally the "bare minimum" it's not usually "bad" it's just the "economy" option most of the time. I had some eachine box goggles getting started as do a lot of folks cause for $50-80 range can't beat 'em but for longer term you'll probably want something where can upgrade the receivers and in any case will want to upgrade from stock antenna usually (it's cheapest thing you can do to get better signal/range usually)

 

[cmalo]

Hiya,

These seem like really good options, of the three I'd still lean towards the tinyhawk (I do have one so some bias there I guess). Reason would go with that is would also get a transmitter that can last and be used across any future quads too if you decide to expand on things and that will work well for simulators (kind of depends on how much you expect to continue on with this as hobby or professional use, if that's worth doing). Also if okay with bit of sunk cost on controller or FPV goggles you might not use or might just give to spectators in the future or something then not a big deal just buy the full package but if looking for components you'll use/upgrade over time then would buy the quad standalone.

Tyro 79s looks solid, only issue I guess is banggood generally means slow shipping times and getting replacement "original" parts may take a while if can't find them locally where you are (can usually make due with replacing components but easier if have thing that match up to original parts if ever have to replace stuff).

The eachine kit I'd shy away from. Eachine is generally the "bare minimum" it's not usually "bad" it's just the "economy" option most of the time. I had some eachine box goggles getting started as do a lot of folks cause for $50-80 range can't beat 'em but for longer term you'll probably want something where can upgrade the receivers and in any case will want to upgrade from stock antenna usually (it's cheapest thing you can do to get better signal/range usually)

Thanks alot for reply,
So the Emax tinyhawk Will be better then the Novice 3?

also for transmitters



i think indeed it is a better idea to Invest a bit more so i am ready for a upgrade whenever i am ready.



for transmitters i watched some reviews and found that the following models are good choices ?





Flysky FS-PL18 - €235

RadioMaster TX16S - €231

Jumper T18 Pro - €161

Radiolink AT 10 - €122



FrSky X9D Plus SE 2019 - €214 (worth the Extra 40?)



FrSky X9D Plus 2019 - €178

FrSky Q X7S - €189

FrSky Q X7 - €145



What would be the best from these ?



Or are there better alternatives for this price range? (€150-€250)



Or if it Will be worth the money i could Spend a little more for a transmitter



Any sugestions highly appreciated

 

[wafflejock]

Yah can't really speak to all of those but of ones I've had experience with I could say pretty confidently you'll be in good shape with either the Jumper T18 Pro or RadioMaster TX16S.

Quick bit of RC history insofar as I understand it. Spektrum is one of the older RC companies that has been big for a long time and makes high quality but generally expensive transmitters and moderately priced but solid receivers (they used the DSM/spread spectrum technology developed by US Navy for reliable transmission over multiple frequencies). FrSky came along at some point and started eating Spektrums lunch to some degree with cheaper alternatives that still work well, they leveraged and built on OpenTX an open source project for building transmitters. The QX 7 is a good beginner radio but not as nice as a T16 or similar variant which came a bit later and are further undercutting FrSky ; Flysky and Radiolink I've also heard pretty good things about in general but have no hands on with and don't see a lot of people using their gear on YouTube (where I get a lot of info that isn't first hand). Both the T16 and T18 also run on OpenTX and have swappable TX module bay so should be easy to upgrade if decide you want to use TBS or other different radios from what is supported out of the box.

Regarding the other question of tiny hawk vs novice 3... I can't say for sure since I don't have the novice 3 in hand to play with and compare but just company reputation wise I trust emax more than eachine (emax makes solid motors and other components that are well tested and generally stand the test of time... not a guarantee but they have a good track record).

 

[wafflejock]

Oh also in general with Transmitters if you go "high end" you are paying for nicer gimbals/sticks where the part that makes the sticks rotate moves smoother (especially over the long term) and is tracked better... potentiometers are used in cheaper ones and will wear down over time and start to have dead spots where the value doesn't come through as expected (some material wore away)... hall sensors on the other hand measure the distance to a magnet so there is no physical wearing from regular use on the sticks/gimbals. This is pretty nuanced and only matters in very long term or for extreme reliability scenarios, but just something to be aware of I guess.