yay
Well-Known Member
hi,
new to drones
briefly, looking for one with IR video feed and 50m range for property surveillance
and that's all, but here's the needlessly long, and hopefully entertaining part
i'm a curmudgeon
i'm old, and have a lot of real tech experience, and am totally disenfranchised from current technology, because it is sold to morons
eg. i wrote my own 3d graphics engine in c++ - i've never used opengl because my computer was manufactured in 2001. i don't want a new computer, because, as a competent programmer, i can already do all the things that i want a computer to do, except interface with new technologies. i have no interest in perpetually "maintaining" (upgrading, buying more crap) my compiler for whatever BS operating system microsoft wants to sell next. XP does stuff, it *does not* recommend movies to me, or tell me when i am sad and should acquire medication.
i find modern technology intensely frustrating.
eg. i am looking for a drone with video feed and IR camera - first item is the parrot
parrot description reads: "parrot headlights have two levels of intensity!"
that's awesome, who doesn't love intensity. but there are ZERO pragma in the description.. "night drone.." does this have IR? or just headlights? no one is going to tell me that because it has TWO LEVELS OF INTENSITY
whoever wrote that totally useless description, i bet i'd give them a new level of intensity to consider face to face eh mates? bloody useless.
no, i'm sorry. i'm a practial person. i am from an era where words had meaning, not "just go along with the vibe"
i want facts, data, pragma, criteria, not a warm gooey feeling in my trousers before i spend $100.
and i would *never* give $100 to someone who belives that "two levels of intensity!" is an adequate product description.
for god's sake, does anyone out there still cogitate? i've spent about four hours looking now.
i have some build experience, not much of an electronics maven, but at some point, i'll be hacking my own together. in the meantime, i've noticed there are many inexpensive products on the market which may be adequate for my purpose.
i want a drone for property surveillance - about a 40m range, and able to identify if there are humans in the area. so video feed, even totally crap quality, and IR would be nice.
i still don't know if "night drone" indicates any kind of thermal capability whatsoever, but i *do* know that inexpensive IR optics have been in the toy market for decades, so i see no reason to believe the capability should be that costy.
after IR, my priorities are cost and flight/recharge time, since it would be preferable to return the drone to a parking alcove in between flights and do several sweeps (1 minute..) before needing to be recharged.
part of the problem here may be that, as an older, practical person, i have *never* wanted to carry a phone on my person and microwave myself any more than would occur otherwise. i don't have a smart phone, and the entire paradigm is lost on me.
for instance, on amazon, one can find a number of cameras with antennae for $20 that "only need a battery" but the entire product description assumes you know what to use them for. a camera that transmits is fine, but wtf does it transmit to? no one includes this information because i guess everybody (but me) knows it. what would be ideal is something that will transmit to a laptop (windows, XP, works fine...)
i can't even find a site that dispenses this kind of information... i'm 50 and and can write the dsp for the motors, but i can't bloody read their mind and figure out what technology this camera is supposed to be used with.
it really concerns me, not because it disenfranchises people like me from new technologies, but also i wonder if the people using these new technologies, have any clue about the fundamentals, or if henceforth all the "messy details" will be left to corporations.
ultimately, my custom drone will include a raspberry pi speech/audio synthesis module because that's the way i roll. it seems ridiculous that i have to spend hours unsuccessfully searching the net for BASIC information about these products. "night drone" does it wear lingerie or are we talking thermal? let's be friends and try to use words to explicitly indicate things instead of sell crap to fools. let's build a glorious society of informed, capable people, not rip each other off and keep each other stupid and malleable. a culture with its head up its ass, ripping itself off straight into hell. there's only so much natural resources to sell to each other, folks.
have fun replying, and remember, i'm an old bugger and have seen all of your criticism and condemnation before, let's stick to moving forwards and helping each other accomplish our objectives.
new to drones
briefly, looking for one with IR video feed and 50m range for property surveillance
and that's all, but here's the needlessly long, and hopefully entertaining part
i'm a curmudgeon
i'm old, and have a lot of real tech experience, and am totally disenfranchised from current technology, because it is sold to morons
eg. i wrote my own 3d graphics engine in c++ - i've never used opengl because my computer was manufactured in 2001. i don't want a new computer, because, as a competent programmer, i can already do all the things that i want a computer to do, except interface with new technologies. i have no interest in perpetually "maintaining" (upgrading, buying more crap) my compiler for whatever BS operating system microsoft wants to sell next. XP does stuff, it *does not* recommend movies to me, or tell me when i am sad and should acquire medication.
i find modern technology intensely frustrating.
eg. i am looking for a drone with video feed and IR camera - first item is the parrot
parrot description reads: "parrot headlights have two levels of intensity!"
that's awesome, who doesn't love intensity. but there are ZERO pragma in the description.. "night drone.." does this have IR? or just headlights? no one is going to tell me that because it has TWO LEVELS OF INTENSITY
whoever wrote that totally useless description, i bet i'd give them a new level of intensity to consider face to face eh mates? bloody useless.
no, i'm sorry. i'm a practial person. i am from an era where words had meaning, not "just go along with the vibe"
i want facts, data, pragma, criteria, not a warm gooey feeling in my trousers before i spend $100.
and i would *never* give $100 to someone who belives that "two levels of intensity!" is an adequate product description.
for god's sake, does anyone out there still cogitate? i've spent about four hours looking now.
i have some build experience, not much of an electronics maven, but at some point, i'll be hacking my own together. in the meantime, i've noticed there are many inexpensive products on the market which may be adequate for my purpose.
i want a drone for property surveillance - about a 40m range, and able to identify if there are humans in the area. so video feed, even totally crap quality, and IR would be nice.
i still don't know if "night drone" indicates any kind of thermal capability whatsoever, but i *do* know that inexpensive IR optics have been in the toy market for decades, so i see no reason to believe the capability should be that costy.
after IR, my priorities are cost and flight/recharge time, since it would be preferable to return the drone to a parking alcove in between flights and do several sweeps (1 minute..) before needing to be recharged.
part of the problem here may be that, as an older, practical person, i have *never* wanted to carry a phone on my person and microwave myself any more than would occur otherwise. i don't have a smart phone, and the entire paradigm is lost on me.
for instance, on amazon, one can find a number of cameras with antennae for $20 that "only need a battery" but the entire product description assumes you know what to use them for. a camera that transmits is fine, but wtf does it transmit to? no one includes this information because i guess everybody (but me) knows it. what would be ideal is something that will transmit to a laptop (windows, XP, works fine...)
i can't even find a site that dispenses this kind of information... i'm 50 and and can write the dsp for the motors, but i can't bloody read their mind and figure out what technology this camera is supposed to be used with.
it really concerns me, not because it disenfranchises people like me from new technologies, but also i wonder if the people using these new technologies, have any clue about the fundamentals, or if henceforth all the "messy details" will be left to corporations.
ultimately, my custom drone will include a raspberry pi speech/audio synthesis module because that's the way i roll. it seems ridiculous that i have to spend hours unsuccessfully searching the net for BASIC information about these products. "night drone" does it wear lingerie or are we talking thermal? let's be friends and try to use words to explicitly indicate things instead of sell crap to fools. let's build a glorious society of informed, capable people, not rip each other off and keep each other stupid and malleable. a culture with its head up its ass, ripping itself off straight into hell. there's only so much natural resources to sell to each other, folks.
have fun replying, and remember, i'm an old bugger and have seen all of your criticism and condemnation before, let's stick to moving forwards and helping each other accomplish our objectives.
