$400 to spend, any ideals

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BTW. Just thought of this. Check out Motion RC. It is Veteran owned and the pricing is fair. As a Vet I thought you might want to know.
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how do you know all these sites, your favorites list on your computer must be a mile long. Mine is growing in leaps and bounds just talking to you.
 
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I don't really keep a favorites list. When I need something I'll google the part and see who has it. I try hard to buy from distributors on the mainland. Sometimes you can't. Like RC Timer CF props. I really like the way they perform and rarely do I need to balance one. It's the only thing I buy from RC Timer. If I find Hobby king has what I want I buy it from one of the US warehouses. I often buy from US suppliers/distributors on ebay and Amazon. It costs a little more but I think it's worth it. Not always possible, but I try. I've become pretty quality conscious and unless I intentionally want something cheap and kinda throw away I try to avoid dealing with Chinese distributors. Say for example you decide you want to use a Naza V2 controller on your build. Google the Naza and see who has it. Some distributors will do a special like adding free software or a special on auto pilot. Often one will offer free shipping or a extended return policy. I find it better than going straight to a distributors site. Google that Tarot hexa you like and you'll find a lot of sellers, reviews and how to videos. Stuff you wouldn't find just going to one distributor.
 
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HDtallrider said:
I don't really keep a favorites list. When I need something I'll google the part and see who has it. I try hard to buy from distributors on the mainland. Sometimes you can't. Like RC Timer CF props. I really like the way they perform and rarely do I need to balance one. It's the only thing I buy from RC Timer. If I find Hobby king has what I want I buy it from one of the US warehouses. I often buy from US suppliers/distributors on ebay and Amazon. It costs a little more but I think it's worth it. Not always possible, but I try. I've become pretty quality conscious and unless I intentionally want something cheap and kinda throw away I try to avoid dealing with Chinese distributors. Say for example you decide you want to use a Naza V2 controller on your build. Google the Naza and see who has it. Some distributors will do a special like adding free software or a special on auto pilot. Often one will offer free shipping or a extended return policy. I find it better than going straight to a distributors site. Google that Tarot hexa you like and you'll find a lot of sellers, reviews and how to videos. Stuff you wouldn't find just going to one distributor.
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All good advice.
 
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Bad flying weather here in Oklahoma but good day for starting a parts list for the build. Motors, ESC,props,GPS,etc etc etc . Ive never used a naza controller on anything, don't really know what they can do or how to program them. Just know what I want it to do. Back to school :(. Just had a thought, maybe I should take a lot of pictures of the build so people can see what NOT to do and avoid mistakes.
 
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I have been pricing A T960 frame , found one at $321.71 With free shipping. From Ebay . From China of course but they all seem to come from china. Will make the order next week. And so the madness begins :p . Found one from a USA dealer at $429. plus shipping . Going to buy a sheet of 3/4" ply wood to build a table just for the build.So I don't have to keep moving it around . I have a truck load of tools so I'm good there. Any kind of special tool I might need ? By the way, If you don't mind me asking what state do you live In? Might want to do a fly over someday :rolleyes: . UPDATE. Just found a T960 frame on Ebay for $276.08 plus free shipping. best yet!:) .
 
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Virginia. Actually I may be near enough to you this fall on one of my epic motorcycle adventures.:p My plan is to finish up Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and western Colorado. I was thinking of going thru Ok. on the way back. Back to quads. This is a huge project you are taking on. Impressive. The only other tool you might need is a prop balancer for large CF props. They're all over the internet. A couple things about you're choice of multi. You will need the rail mounting system and the battery tray for underneath. Scuttlebut has it that the T960 is a bit unstable with the batteries on top. One important change you will need to make is moving the ESC's to the main frame. It looks like you could mount them to the original top frame battery mounts. You want to make the DC voltage wires and ESC power leads as short as possible. The AC leads from the ESC's to the motors can be as long as needed with no ill effect. Be sure to leave enough slack to not pinch when folding the arms. The leads on the KDE motors are like 2' long so you're covered. Another consideration is to use the UBEC from KDE because it can handle 22a and is so quiet you could wrap the leads around your Rx with no ill effects. As well as powering your FCB you can power retracts, led's or even your boat winch:rolleyes:. It will handle powering everything at once. Multiple cameras. Anything.
 
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Check these guys out --- http://quadlugs.com/ --- this is a cheap way to get some build and fly experience. Cheap to build and cheap to repair. You can use them over and over. You can also use the various designs to experiment with the different flight characteristics of each. You can also gain familiarity with your transmitter. GJH105775 likes to use aluminum for his experimental builds. His stuff bends all the time. I have tried, to no avail, to get him to switch to wood for his experiments. When I break an arm it costs me .80c and a few minutes to replace. He has yet to see the light.....LOL. You really should get some build and fly time in before the initial flight of your multi thousand dollar baby. :)
 
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Check these guys out --- http://quadlugs.com/ --- this is a cheap way to get some build and fly experience. Cheap to build and cheap to repair. You can use them over and over. You can also use the various designs to experiment with the different flight characteristics of each. You can also gain familiarity with your transmitter. GJH105775 likes to use aluminum for his experimental builds. His stuff bends all the time. I have tried, to no avail, to get him to switch to wood for his experiments. When I break an arm it costs me .80c and a few minutes to replace. He has yet to see the light.....LOL. You really should get some build and fly time in before the initial flight of your multi thousand dollar baby. :)
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Haha, I have wood inserts in my aluminium now :cool: I am able to stand and jump on my frame.
 
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My beef with an all aluminum quad is not the strength but the vibration problems. Aluminum has what I call " sympathetic" vibration qualities. Say you have a out of balance motor. Aluminum will transfer that exact vibration frequency down the arm and into the frame and finally into various components. I don't know the scientific explanation for why this is. It just is. Using wood inserts accomplished 2 things. It added the strength inherent in composite construction and damped vibrations. The internet is full of "fixes" for aluminum vibration issues. They usually involve using rubber damping between the arm and the frame. now you introduce flex. A whole other can of worms. A better alternative is to attach the arms to a frame made from a harmonically "dead" material. Usually woven carbon fiber or thin plastic/foam/plastic sandwich. Aluminum has a lot of great features for use in quads. Motor mounts, bracing, various attachment hardware, heat sinks and etc. Enough! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!! LOL
 
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My beef with an all aluminum quad is not the strength but the vibration problems. Aluminum has what I call " sympathetic" vibration qualities. Say you have a out of balance motor. Aluminum will transfer that exact vibration frequency down the arm and into the frame and finally into various components. I don't know the scientific explanation for why this is. It just is. Using wood inserts accomplished 2 things. It added the strength inherent in composite construction and damped vibrations. The internet is full of "fixes" for aluminum vibration issues. They usually involve using rubber damping between the arm and the frame. now you introduce flex. A whole other can of worms. A better alternative is to attach the arms to a frame made from a harmonically "dead" material. Usually woven carbon fiber or thin plastic/foam/plastic sandwich. Aluminum has a lot of great features for use in quads. Motor mounts, bracing, various attachment hardware, heat sinks and etc. Enough! That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!! LOL
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Vibration is the biggest problem. But flex is not much, by time it bends most other frames would have broke. I may be using a little heavier gauge.
 
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Not all T960 frames out there are tarot T960. BEWARE of knock offs . If the Price Is to good to be true - - -. Price Is back up to about $340 . Say tallrider, have you ever used a simulator to play around on the computer ?
 
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