Mike H.
Toy Quad Builder
So here is my start on the X1-R project....First i want to talk about the X1 in general.
The X1 from SYMA is much like the X5C now from syma...it was the most popular along side of WL Toys models and a household name in toy quads...You could find videos of people attaching 808 cameras back when they werent really that great and, fpv sets ups as it was one of the go to quads to have.
The syma x1 3 axis gyros were very sensitive and if you were 5 degress off of being level it would drift in the direction that it was off everytime....A very stable board but range was horrible with just 20 to 30m and this is all you got with it and was easy to lose signal even behind a simple clothes line post sticking up from the ground....Control response is a bit slow in the fact that if you were flying forward and pulled back on the stick it takes a couple of seconds for it to respond and change direction...A great quad but, by todays standards is no comparison as far as the flight control board is concerned.
Now we enter todays syma with the X5C and it shares essentially everything but the flight board and the addition of a different body...The 7mm motors are im sure carry overs as well as the motor holders with maybe a slight difference in that it attached to the arm guards on the ends of the x1 that is not present now with the x5 but are adaptable very easily to the x5 body ....Even the props are exact duplicates of the X1 dimension and pitch....The gearing of a 53T main gear and a 9T pinion gear is also the same..Everything motor related and gearing is older x1 design.
Now lets compare the weights between the 2 models....the x5c comes in at just over 100g of weight and the syma x1 comes in at under 60g of weight without the tiny 350mah battery...So we have a significant amount of weight difference here of about 40% but everything else pretty much remains the same...Hmmm a light weight x1 with todays x5 improvements sounds like a fun quad so, im going to do it...if you have seen my x5c-1 modifications thread this will be yet an even lighter version of an x5 by about 20% more less weight...Carrying a camera would be practically nothing for this X1 and would make for a great syma fpv platform at some point...For now ill try the stock syma camera with it and see how it goes...I have no doubt it would carry a 40g mobius cam and fly much like a stock syma x5c-1 would and it not be overly heavy...A mobius cam on a stock x5c is just too much weight for it.
So here is my list of this build in full.
UPDATED PARTS LIST: 3/18/16)
1.)WL Toys V959 Main Frame.
2.)WL Toys V959 Landing Skids.
3.) SYMA X5C-1 V6 FCB.
4.) Syma X5C Camera
5.) Everything else stock SYMA X1 (motors, motor holders, booms, gears, props and canopy.)
I flew it tonight in fully stock form except for the v959 parts using the 650mah battery that comes with the U807 as its the only battery i have right now using the same JST connector.....I had to zip tie the battery in place (under the landing skids )as it was too wide to fit inside the smaller battery compartment...The older quads used those longer "chewing gum" shaped batteries....Ill be getting some proper style 500mah batteries to use with the quad.
Ill report on the rest of the changes as i make them and Ill post some pic of the progress so far later this evening.
The X1 from SYMA is much like the X5C now from syma...it was the most popular along side of WL Toys models and a household name in toy quads...You could find videos of people attaching 808 cameras back when they werent really that great and, fpv sets ups as it was one of the go to quads to have.
The syma x1 3 axis gyros were very sensitive and if you were 5 degress off of being level it would drift in the direction that it was off everytime....A very stable board but range was horrible with just 20 to 30m and this is all you got with it and was easy to lose signal even behind a simple clothes line post sticking up from the ground....Control response is a bit slow in the fact that if you were flying forward and pulled back on the stick it takes a couple of seconds for it to respond and change direction...A great quad but, by todays standards is no comparison as far as the flight control board is concerned.
Now we enter todays syma with the X5C and it shares essentially everything but the flight board and the addition of a different body...The 7mm motors are im sure carry overs as well as the motor holders with maybe a slight difference in that it attached to the arm guards on the ends of the x1 that is not present now with the x5 but are adaptable very easily to the x5 body ....Even the props are exact duplicates of the X1 dimension and pitch....The gearing of a 53T main gear and a 9T pinion gear is also the same..Everything motor related and gearing is older x1 design.
Now lets compare the weights between the 2 models....the x5c comes in at just over 100g of weight and the syma x1 comes in at under 60g of weight without the tiny 350mah battery...So we have a significant amount of weight difference here of about 40% but everything else pretty much remains the same...Hmmm a light weight x1 with todays x5 improvements sounds like a fun quad so, im going to do it...if you have seen my x5c-1 modifications thread this will be yet an even lighter version of an x5 by about 20% more less weight...Carrying a camera would be practically nothing for this X1 and would make for a great syma fpv platform at some point...For now ill try the stock syma camera with it and see how it goes...I have no doubt it would carry a 40g mobius cam and fly much like a stock syma x5c-1 would and it not be overly heavy...A mobius cam on a stock x5c is just too much weight for it.
So here is my list of this build in full.
UPDATED PARTS LIST: 3/18/16)
1.)WL Toys V959 Main Frame.
2.)WL Toys V959 Landing Skids.
3.) SYMA X5C-1 V6 FCB.
4.) Syma X5C Camera
5.) Everything else stock SYMA X1 (motors, motor holders, booms, gears, props and canopy.)
I flew it tonight in fully stock form except for the v959 parts using the 650mah battery that comes with the U807 as its the only battery i have right now using the same JST connector.....I had to zip tie the battery in place (under the landing skids )as it was too wide to fit inside the smaller battery compartment...The older quads used those longer "chewing gum" shaped batteries....Ill be getting some proper style 500mah batteries to use with the quad.
Ill report on the rest of the changes as i make them and Ill post some pic of the progress so far later this evening.
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