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Are you talking about this one? Lol German site, the translation of the descriptions is interesting. http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/AI?ARTN=16520.RTF It's the only RTF one I found on their site. What other ones are you talking about for 400 to 500?

Oh yeah I forgot to mention the same day I bought a little mini one as well the same day I got the AR drone for that exact purpose - learning to fly with speed. It is a Quark Micro Drone. Although small the little thing is quick, not as quick as any of the racing ones but quick enough. What is AP?

Okay, so a couple months ago I splurged on an AR Drone because of sheer interest in drones and how cool they were beginning to look. After those few months of flying I've decided I definitely want something more - way more. I have been watching videos since then as well, and I came across those...