New to quadcopters, please help ?

[Luxpin_]

So I first got a Proto X nano quad just for fun thinking it would be really cool how small it is, it got me really interested in quads and wanted me to dabble a bit more, so I bought a F180c Holy Stone quad, its fairly small and i've been getting pretty good at it, I crash often if I try new things but I have the basic controls down but one thing I cant do is when you make the quad face you and all the right stick controls flip , I crash almost instantly. I really need help especially when I move onto a bigger and better quad I dont want to spend hundreds on a quad and end up crashing it I see people go SUPER high up in the air and fly it like its nothing with my quad every time I go up in the air I lose control, maybe because of wind and how small it is but i'm scared to move onto bigger quads in fear of crashing it. How do you know when to move up and get a bigger quad? If anyone would like to help me and see my progress just ask for my info and we can keep in contact thank you and have a nice day to anyone who reads this.

 

[GJH105775]

Know? Hahahahaha, you move up when the hunger is too much to bear. Many people start on big quads, what do you plan to use it for? Speed demon (Racing quad) or a camera platform.

If you would rather a speed demon I'd say to go ahead and move up, they handle crashes well and you will need to learn rate mode before you get bad habits. If you can fly the micro fairly well then you should be ready, like I said before you don't want to learn too many bad habits.

 

[Luxpin_]

Know? Hahahahaha, you move up when the hunger is too much to bear. Many people start on big quads, what do you plan to use it for? Speed demon (Racing quad) or a camera platform.

If you would rather a speed demon I'd say to go ahead and move up, they handle crashes well and you will need to learn rate mode before you get bad habits. If you can fly the micro fairly well then you should be ready, like I said before you don't want to learn too many bad habits.

I dont know exactly what I want to use it for , I really like the camera quads though , getting really amazing shots and stuff like that. Speed is fun but I'm not that good at controlling it when it goes fast right now.

 

[GJH105775]

Then you need both! Haha

 

[Jackson]

I have the basic controls down but one thing I cant do is when you make the quad face you and all the right stick controls flip , I crash almost instantly

Learning 'nose in' flying is tough to learn, it's something that can take many, many flights to master. There are really no shortcuts, you have to practice a lot and concentrate. The best analogy I've seen is it's like balancing a stick on your right thumb. Until you fully master that you'll never be able to move on to the next phase.

When I first started I never paid enough attention to orientation of the quad (mine were all white, props and all.) I think yours has white props in front, focus on them all the time.

These folks don't get into 'nose in' flying but it's still a good vid.

 

[Quadcopter102]

Then you need both!

I suppose I will have all these problems !! I am on the Central Coast -NSW- Australia ... are there any groups/clubs or just experienced pilots - where we newbie types can get some advice and even stand watching how its done?

 

[DJIdude]

So I first got a Proto X nano quad just for fun thinking it would be really cool how small it is, it got me really interested in quads and wanted me to dabble a bit more, so I bought a F180c Holy Stone quad, its fairly small and i've been getting pretty good at it, I crash often if I try new things but I have the basic controls down but one thing I cant do is when you make the quad face you and all the right stick controls flip , I crash almost instantly. I really need help especially when I move onto a bigger and better quad I dont want to spend hundreds on a quad and end up crashing it I see people go SUPER high up in the air and fly it like its nothing with my quad every time I go up in the air I lose control, maybe because of wind and how small it is but i'm scared to move onto bigger quads in fear of crashing it. How do you know when to move up and get a bigger quad? If anyone would like to help me and see my progress just ask for my info and we can keep in contact thank you and have a nice day to anyone who reads this.

Well, here's my input: you should look into a Phantom drone, as they come equipped with a GPS, orientation sensor, and position hold, and practically fly themselves. You could buy a good older model with a GoPro mount for under $500 on eBay. They also have a real time FPV video stream back to a smartphone (if you buy the model that supports it stock, or buy third party FPV gear). Also, you could look into the Quanum Nova on the HobbyKing.com website. You could get it for under $300, and it's also equipped with GPS, return to home, and a GoPro mount. If you're looking for a racing quad, you could either build one (very fun, but basic electronics and quadcopter knowledge is needed), or just buy one pre-assembled. They come with or without FPV preinstalled, but I'd recommend buying one with FPV and a pair of FPV goggles.

I actually have about a dozen drones, including the DJI Phantom 2 Vision + (love it!), a couple of home-built racing quads, a couple more FPV drones, and also some micros and toy-grade. I've been flying for several years, and it's my favorite hobby! My first drone was a Hubsan HD micro camera drone, and since then I haven't looked back! If anybody has questions about drones, please don't hesitate to message me directly, and I'll be happy to try my best to help you out!

 

[Jackson]

Also, you could look into the Quanum Nova on the HobbyKing.com website

Those and OEM CX 20 have been plagued with QC problems, even on these forums we have had many complaints and angry rants. One member had a motor that would not spin up right out of the box. When he opened it up he found it wasn't even soldered to the ESC, he is not alone. A loose GPS module also comes up a lot, causing erratic behavior that often leads to a crash.

 

[DJIdude]

Those and OEM CX 20 have been plagued with QC problems, even on these forums we have had many complaints and angry rants. One member had a motor that would not spin up right out of the box. When he opened it up he found it wasn't even soldered to the ESC, he is not alone. A loose GPS module also comes up a lot, causing erratic behavior that often leads to a crash.

Yeah, good point Jackson. I've heard some bad reviews about them, but I've also heard some good ones. It's a pretty good deal if you get one that works fine out of the box though. And if someone did decide to buy one, I'd recommend buying from someone who has a good return policy.