Newbie toy grade vs Hobby grade RTF

[DrDiff]

Hi, I just got my first drone last night Syma X4 Gyro. I am just beginning to get double digit seconds flight length. My hands are too spastic, quick on the controls. I wonder if the larger Hobby Grade RTFs are easier to fly.

 

[holtneil]

Hi mate well yes they can be made tame, Hobby grade can have self level which will make it more stable, also stick scaling so you dont get full angle of attack so this will slow it down a little , some of the micro quads 6 axis ones do have the same aids as the larger hobby grade , Dumb thumbs its called and this will go with time your muscle memory will come in time one way to help this is to mark out a box and try and hover in the box and fly around the box , once the correction become second nature your dumb thumbs will go , the only quad that that your will fly like a pro on the first day out of the box is the DJI Phantom
I know you want a 250 racing quad these are one of the hardest to fly as they are very fast even pros crash these a lot your need lots of spare props

 

[DrDiff]

I seem to be getting used to hovering and was thinking about trying to fly a pattern or box as you said.

My biggest issue right now is I am fine if the drone faces away from me but no idea what to do when it rotates in the y axis (x being left and right, y being up and down z being forward and backward)

I guess this is where FPV would help?

 

[holtneil]

Hi mate orientation will come with time its the hardest thing to learn , A sim is a great help if you can get one , for now fly tail in and slowly turn left or right and over time increase the angle till your side ways flying do this for a while then increase till your facing you , now all the controls are back to front so do very small inputs to hover , another way is hover and walk round quad keeping the hover steady keep doing this till your at the front again , I fly CP helis and its even harder as they need to balance all the time it can take a good month for a quad and a year for a cp heli

 

[DrDiff]

I am flying indoors and have moved to a larger room. I am getting longer flight times nothing over a minute yet. I have found it easiest to keep the rear of the drone to me. I just started adding flying under a table to my flight box. VERY FUN. I an just starting to grasp the concept of combining banking and forward/back (z axis translation and x axis translation) I am not at all used to how y axis rotation affects height compared to banking and forward back.

 

[GJH105775]

Haha, I actually found toy grade to be as easy to fly (I've only used 6 Axis toy-grade), but on hobby grade you can really adjust settings like the Plimit(how far you can go from level) this allowed me a little room for error. I agree that is is by far the easiest to keep, If the failsafe works on yours you might try flying it outside a little, it is a lot easier without things to hit.

 

[DrDiff]

Mine is too small to be flown outside

 

[GJH105775]

How small is too small? I love to fly this one outside.

 

[DrDiff]

Under 5 inches. Weighs nothing...

 

[GJH105775]

The one I am talking about is also under 5. Here is a small video of it being flown indoors, I may never finish editing it or do the voice lol. I was surprised how it handled wind. I was afraid at first to take it out, but I did more damage inside lol.
Either if you are not comfortable flying outdoors, then just don't. I have found quads to be really fun, I have about as good a time building as flying. With the way I fly I spend 4 hours building/repairing for every hour of flight .

Here is @holtneil 's review.

 

[DrDiff]

Here is my fun little drone..

 

[GJH105775]

Haha, the propguards are nice. The guards that came with mine were about worthless as they flexed a lot.